Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 15:17     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Using watering can is better hygiene wise, better for environment and costs cheaper.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 15:14     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This study says otherwise.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35100172/


That study refers to microbes on hands. The previous refers to instances of bacterial vaginosis. Yes, it keeps your hands cleaner, but at the expense of fecal contamination in water that hits your mucosal membranes… Not greats.


Just sharing one with family or using one from public toilet.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 15:04     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Anonymous wrote:Wiping with dry toilet paper in an attempt to clean unseen areas can be an exercise in frustration. There has to be a better way.


Use wet wipes (like baby wipes) and throw away in trash, not toilet. Or use a high-quality paper towel dampened with warm water and put in trash. Or, if you are willing to do the laundry to support it, a warm wet cloth or washcloth that is washed soon and thoroughly between uses.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 15:01     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you know about the study that shows increased UTIs in women who used bidets?


No. Link please?


Certainly. These are mostly out of Japan, but there are others if you need them. I mean, it may not pan out to be a problem in certain circustances and with particular cleaning regimens of the machines, but there's probably more work than people might have thought. And the, hmmm, smugness we get on some DCUM threads about bidets isn't really warranted.

Habitual use of warm-water cleaning toilets is related to the aggravation of vaginal microflora

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21058441/

Habitual use of bidet toilets aggravates vaginal microflora, either by depriving normal microflora or facilitating opportunistic infection of fecal bacteria and other microorganisms.


Bidet Toilet Use May Cause Anal Symptoms and Nosocomial Infection

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34746497/

Additionally, the nozzle surface and splay water of bidet toilets may be contaminated with fecal indicator bacteria, such as Escherichia coli and Pseudomonas aeruginosa, as well as antimicrobial-resistant bacteria, rendering them a potential vehicle for cross-infection.


Public health and healthcare-associated risk of electric, warm-water bidet toilets

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28756169/

Warm-water nozzles of bidet toilets are contaminated with a wide range of bacteria, making them a potential vehicle for cross-infection.


Bidet toilet seats with warm-water tanks: residual chlorine, microbial community, and structural analyses

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26837831/

Despite the reported health-related advantages of the use of warm water in bidets, there are health-related disadvantages associated with the use of these toilet seats, and the bacterial research is sparse. We conducted a survey on the hygienic conditions of 127 warm-water bidet toilet seats in restrooms on a university campus. The spray water from the toilet seats had less residual chlorine than their tap water sources. However, the total viable microbial count was below the water-quality standard for tap water. In addition, the heat of the toilet seats' warm-water tanks caused heterotrophic bacteria in the source tap water to proliferate inside the nozzle pipes and the warm-water tanks. Escherichia coli was detected on the spray nozzles of about 5% of the toilet seats, indicating that the self-cleaning mechanism of the spray nozzles was largely functioning properly. However, Pseudomonas aeruginosa was detected on about 2% of the toilet seats. P. aeruginosa was found to remain for long durations in biofilms that formed inside warm-water tanks. Infection-prevention measures aimed at P. aeruginosa should receive full consideration when managing warm-water bidet toilet seats in hospitals in order to prevent opportunistic infections in intensive care units, hematology wards, and other hospital locations.





Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 15:00     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Anonymous wrote:This study says otherwise.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35100172/


That study refers to microbes on hands. The previous refers to instances of bacterial vaginosis. Yes, it keeps your hands cleaner, but at the expense of fecal contamination in water that hits your mucosal membranes… Not greats.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 15:00     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Wiping with dry toilet paper in an attempt to clean unseen areas can be an exercise in frustration. There has to be a better way.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:59     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:58     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

This study says otherwise.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35100172/
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:45     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

https://www.healthline.com/health/are-bidets-sanitary#research-findings

In addition, out of the 268 women, fecal bacteria were detected in 46 of the bidet users and in only 4 of the nonusers.

If you’re pregnant, you may want to carefully consider the decision to use a bidet. A 2019 study showed that pregnant women deemed to be “high-risk” who used a bidet regularly were more likely to give birth prior to their due dates.


etc
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:43     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Anonymous wrote:Do you know about the study that shows increased UTIs in women who used bidets?


No. Link please?
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:43     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Anonymous wrote:Do you know about the study that shows increased UTIs in women who used bidets?


can you share it?
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:42     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Do you know about the study that shows increased UTIs in women who used bidets?
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:34     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?

Why not just use water and get better hygiene than just do a half ass attempt of cleaning with paper?
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2024 14:32     Subject: Why aren't these hygienic attachments popular here in US?