Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

Of course it’s not required. But it’s completely untrue that the US is the only country to do something like the pledge.

True, the Nazis did something similar.

The pledge is weird. Kids look like weird robots doing it.

You think the teacher should be forced to do something that is against their conscience? That seems very unpatriotic and unamerican.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

Here we go. Yet another thread full of extreme reactions. Accusations of loathing the country and of being a fascist, and that’s just in the first two posts.

DP, and I agree it is probably extreme. OP is either a pot stirrer or just ignorant, but...someone who doesn't stand for the pledge doesn't loathe the country de facto. However, someone who would email the governor and the media because a teacher doesn't stand for the pledge...that CAN easily be construed as fascist. Wanting people to be shamed or forced to stand violates all sorts of 1A rights.

But again, probably just stupid.

Why is the pledge done on school? I find it odd and don’t care if anyone doesn’t participate. I am sure North Korea requires their pledge to be enforced

I'd bet OP's the kind of person who thinks someone wearing a US flag lapel pin cares about this country, more than someone who doesn't. That is, if OP isn't a dipshit troll.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

Of course it’s not required. But it’s completely untrue that the US is the only country to do something like the pledge.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

Neither the governor nor a TV news station gives a shit.

Who are you to dictate how others should behave? Why do you hate American values so much that you would seek to dictate how people say a pledge, which is kind of anti-American in the first place (dictatorships like North Korea are the only other places this sort of ritualized patriotism is forced on children).

OTOH considering Youngkin’s lip service about indoctrination, maybe he WILL care and end the practice altogether?

Sorry, but I don't pledge any allegiance to a flag. And certainly not "under god."

I pledge for ethics, human rights, education, kindness, among other humanist values.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

+1

OP sounds ignorant.

OP, with your kids, do a home lesson on WV v Barnette. You can learn something, and explain to them how you tried to be patriotic by getting mad at the teachers and whiffed, because their right to not stand for the pledge is a good example of what makes the country great.

“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”

This comes up all the time on this forum but anyway, there’s nothing you can do OP. It’s not a law. Nobody has to stand for the pledge. The students don’t. I’m a teacher and I don’t say the pledge. I happen to be standing usually since it happens at the beginning of class and I’m prepared to begin instruction but I don’t turn and face the flag and put my hand on my heart. It’s actually kind of creepy that people robotically do this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

Here we go. Yet another thread full of extreme reactions. Accusations of loathing the country and of being a fascist, and that’s just in the first two posts.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond