Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 16:08     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

I highly recommend the Cocaine Cowboys if you want to learn more about Griselda.
This version is honestly quite offensive.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 12:52     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watched first few episodes.

It is very well done, acting convincing and sets realistic.

I did not recognize Sophia as her make up was so heavy - took 1.5 hours before shooting each day.

However, it is heart breaking that Griselda continued to make worse and worse decisions that not only placed her and her sons at great risk, but created a whole new market for highly addictive drugs among wealthy retirees, young professionals and others who not previously been much exposed to drugs.

Another sad thing for me was that Sophia helped to break down stereotypes of Columbian Cocaine cartels and crime with her iconic Gloria role in Modern Family. Now she is showing off her acting chops but totally reinforcing negative stereotypes of Colombian culture being crime addled, sexist, violent, and depraved.

But it is well done.


This series has really sanitized Griselda. They portray her as a plucky woman who escaped sex work and her abusive husband and made a new life for herself (while giving other sex workers freedom!), and came up with novel ideas to sell drugs because she had to feed her children and male drug dealers didn't respect her. She was in the drug business and had been convicted of drug-related crimes well before the point at which the series starts. Men were terrified of her, because she was a murderous sociopath. She killed three of her husbands. She killed a child when she was a child herself!
I do appreciate that she was a product of poverty, child sex abuse, lack of opportunity, and so on. And she probably was charismatic. But the series, despite me enjoying it for what it was, is ridiculous. Watch the Cocaine Cowboys documentary.


PP to whom you responded

Thanks for heads up. The sanitized version was depressing enough but her real life story is horrifying. How tragic for everyone she crossed paths with.

https://people.com/who-was-griselda-blanco-colombian-cartel-leader-8421704
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 09:56     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watched first few episodes.

It is very well done, acting convincing and sets realistic.

I did not recognize Sophia as her make up was so heavy - took 1.5 hours before shooting each day.

However, it is heart breaking that Griselda continued to make worse and worse decisions that not only placed her and her sons at great risk, but created a whole new market for highly addictive drugs among wealthy retirees, young professionals and others who not previously been much exposed to drugs.

Another sad thing for me was that Sophia helped to break down stereotypes of Columbian Cocaine cartels and crime with her iconic Gloria role in Modern Family. Now she is showing off her acting chops but totally reinforcing negative stereotypes of Colombian culture being crime addled, sexist, violent, and depraved.

But it is well done.


This series has really sanitized Griselda. They portray her as a plucky woman who escaped sex work and her abusive husband and made a new life for herself (while giving other sex workers freedom!), and came up with novel ideas to sell drugs because she had to feed her children and male drug dealers didn't respect her. She was in the drug business and had been convicted of drug-related crimes well before the point at which the series starts. Men were terrified of her, because she was a murderous sociopath. She killed three of her husbands. She killed a child when she was a child herself!
I do appreciate that she was a product of poverty, child sex abuse, lack of opportunity, and so on. And she probably was charismatic. But the series, despite me enjoying it for what it was, is ridiculous. Watch the Cocaine Cowboys documentary.


Agreed.

Griselda wasn’t a victim. She was a ruthless criminal who killed people. She kidnapped a kid when she was a young child herself.

And she wasn’t attractive either.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2024 09:46     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Loved it and I loved all of Griselda’s clothes. Of course it helps that Sofia Vergara was the one wearing them, but the costuming was great.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 18:21     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

I can’t believe another Hollywood depiction of her was portrayed by Catherine Zeta Jones!
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 17:05     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Anonymous wrote:Watched first few episodes.

It is very well done, acting convincing and sets realistic.

I did not recognize Sophia as her make up was so heavy - took 1.5 hours before shooting each day.

However, it is heart breaking that Griselda continued to make worse and worse decisions that not only placed her and her sons at great risk, but created a whole new market for highly addictive drugs among wealthy retirees, young professionals and others who not previously been much exposed to drugs.

Another sad thing for me was that Sophia helped to break down stereotypes of Columbian Cocaine cartels and crime with her iconic Gloria role in Modern Family. Now she is showing off her acting chops but totally reinforcing negative stereotypes of Colombian culture being crime addled, sexist, violent, and depraved.

But it is well done.


This series has really sanitized Griselda. They portray her as a plucky woman who escaped sex work and her abusive husband and made a new life for herself (while giving other sex workers freedom!), and came up with novel ideas to sell drugs because she had to feed her children and male drug dealers didn't respect her. She was in the drug business and had been convicted of drug-related crimes well before the point at which the series starts. Men were terrified of her, because she was a murderous sociopath. She killed three of her husbands. She killed a child when she was a child herself!
I do appreciate that she was a product of poverty, child sex abuse, lack of opportunity, and so on. And she probably was charismatic. But the series, despite me enjoying it for what it was, is ridiculous. Watch the Cocaine Cowboys documentary.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 16:50     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Anonymous wrote:Watched first few episodes.

It is very well done, acting convincing and sets realistic.

I did not recognize Sophia as her make up was so heavy - took 1.5 hours before shooting each day.

However, it is heart breaking that Griselda continued to make worse and worse decisions that not only placed her and her sons at great risk, but created a whole new market for highly addictive drugs among wealthy retirees, young professionals and others who not previously been much exposed to drugs.

Another sad thing for me was that Sophia helped to break down stereotypes of Columbian Cocaine cartels and crime with her iconic Gloria role in Modern Family. Now she is showing off her acting chops but totally reinforcing negative stereotypes of Colombian culture being crime addled, sexist, violent, and depraved.

But it is well done.


I think this is a simplistic view but if you are Colombian I support I will defer to you.

She is telling dynamic, nuanced stories. One doesn't negate the other (especially in the Griselda case).
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 16:30     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Watched first few episodes.

It is very well done, acting convincing and sets realistic.

I did not recognize Sophia as her make up was so heavy - took 1.5 hours before shooting each day.

However, it is heart breaking that Griselda continued to make worse and worse decisions that not only placed her and her sons at great risk, but created a whole new market for highly addictive drugs among wealthy retirees, young professionals and others who not previously been much exposed to drugs.

Another sad thing for me was that Sophia helped to break down stereotypes of Columbian Cocaine cartels and crime with her iconic Gloria role in Modern Family. Now she is showing off her acting chops but totally reinforcing negative stereotypes of Colombian culture being crime addled, sexist, violent, and depraved.

But it is well done.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 06:46     Subject: Re:Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oooh I've been looking for something to watch and I've read a bit about Griselda.
I'm fascinated by drug cartels, particularly the women involved in them.


Yes, excellent role models for our daughters.


Who said anything about role models?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 06:06     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

I love it so far. I don't know that I've seen her in a serious role but she's great and still funny
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 06:04     Subject: Re:Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Anonymous wrote:Oooh I've been looking for something to watch and I've read a bit about Griselda.
I'm fascinated by drug cartels, particularly the women involved in them.


Yes, excellent role models for our daughters.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2024 21:48     Subject: Re:Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Oooh I've been looking for something to watch and I've read a bit about Griselda.
I'm fascinated by drug cartels, particularly the women involved in them.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2024 21:22     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

Just watched the pilot. Sofia is amazing. She will get nominations for this.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2024 12:24     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

same.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2024 11:59     Subject: Griselda - Netflix show with Sofía Vergara

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/griselda/s01

This looks good and I have completely run out of shows to watch. Anyone put it on?

"The savvy and ambitious Colombian businesswomen Griselda Blanco creates one of the most profitable cartels in history."