Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That really stinks. Sorry to hear that. They are being punished for being wealthy. But the education they received will make it ok in the long run. Plus they can still get into a prestigious graduate school

I agree. The private school kids in this area have very high SAT and ACT scores and colleges are not even taking that into account. I think there will be backlash when they start to see a difference in the kind of work the kids they are admitting are tuning in. There is a distinct difference in writing and other skills.

This doesn't quite make sense. Submit that high scores, that is great.

But your private school kid likely has a lower GPA than others with weighted scores based on 12 plus APs, etc. And then these kids do NOT submit test scores.

So the lower GPAs are killing the private school kids, esp with so many applications. If your school says "well they know our school is more rigorous," you should laugh in their faces.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That really stinks. Sorry to hear that. They are being punished for being wealthy. But the education they received will make it ok in the long run. Plus they can still get into a prestigious graduate school

I agree. The private school kids in this area have very high SAT and ACT scores and colleges are not even taking that into account. I think there will be backlash when they start to see a difference in the kind of work the kids they are admitting are tuning in. There is a distinct difference in writing and other skills.

Top colleges already realizing this fact…listen to podcast with Yale and Dartmouth admissions deans on this very subject. The exams do add value!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7fHETLND5IlCqWHp2rt3Kj?go=1&sp_cid=d96c9c10c1cd7f32d6e1e3827ba7a024&utm_source=embed_player_p&utm_medium=desktop&nd=1&dlsi=0bf2430e98e34d3b

This is why MIT went back to test required/

And why several southern state school systems require -- TN, FL, GA.

Auburn is "test preferred."

So the tide is turning.

Just look at the common data set for schools and see the low rate of test scores submitted. A joke. And not all these students have "test anxiety" or other impairment factors. It is a scam and the schools enable it and make it impossible for a student to submit because of the artificially high test range.

EA is BS and a marketing gimmick to convince you that you will have decision before Xmas.

From what I experienced, only the high stat kids who are clearly over qualified for a school get in. And the school is usually the safety.

No idea if same experience at Top 30. We applied to big state schools that would have been easy admits a few years ago.

Anonymous wrote:Are you seeing a ton - more than usual - deferrals if top/competitive candidates in ED/EA than in the past year or two?

What are the private CCO advising as to strategy?

If only the CCO’s would advise on anything, ever!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That really stinks. Sorry to hear that. They are being punished for being wealthy. But the education they received will make it ok in the long run. Plus they can still get into a prestigious graduate school

I agree. The private school kids in this area have very high SAT and ACT scores and colleges are not even taking that into account. I think there will be backlash when they start to see a difference in the kind of work the kids they are admitting are tuning in. There is a distinct difference in writing and other skills.

Top colleges already realizing this fact…listen to podcast with Yale and Dartmouth admissions deans on this very subject. The exams do add value!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7fHETLND5IlCqWHp2rt3Kj?go=1&sp_cid=d96c9c10c1cd7f32d6e1e3827ba7a024&utm_source=embed_player_p&utm_medium=desktop&nd=1&dlsi=0bf2430e98e34d3b

Anonymous wrote:That really stinks. Sorry to hear that. They are being punished for being wealthy. But the education they received will make it ok in the long run. Plus they can still get into a prestigious graduate school

This makes me feel bad for wealthy people. 🥲🥲

Anonymous wrote:That really stinks. Sorry to hear that. They are being punished for being wealthy. But the education they received will make it ok in the long run. Plus they can still get into a prestigious graduate school

No, they are just being treated like everyone else. Stings, doesn’t it?

Anonymous wrote:That really stinks. Sorry to hear that. They are being punished for being wealthy. But the education they received will make it ok in the long run. Plus they can still get into a prestigious graduate school

I agree. The private school kids in this area have very high SAT and ACT scores and colleges are not even taking that into account. I think there will be backlash when they start to see a difference in the kind of work the kids they are admitting are tuning in. There is a distinct difference in writing and other skills.

That really stinks. Sorry to hear that. They are being punished for being wealthy. But the education they received will make it ok in the long run. Plus they can still get into a prestigious graduate school

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have kids at two Big3 schools and what I've been hearing is that the kids getting in are the top kids 3.95+ and the kids aiming outright for less competitive schools (say, Syracuse, South Carolina, Colorado, second tier liberal arts colleges etc).
The instagrams look great but what you're seeing are the athletic recruits, 3.95+ kids, and some legacies (mostly VIP legacies).
It's the middle (say 3.6 to 3.9) that are just getting deferred or denied. This is worrisome because this is a big part of each class.

Lots of deferrals from 3.75-3.9
That in previous years would have been admits.

5-10 years ago, yes. last 3 years, no.

Anonymous wrote:I have kids at two Big3 schools and what I've been hearing is that the kids getting in are the top kids 3.95+ and the kids aiming outright for less competitive schools (say, Syracuse, South Carolina, Colorado, second tier liberal arts colleges etc).
The instagrams look great but what you're seeing are the athletic recruits, 3.95+ kids, and some legacies (mostly VIP legacies).
It's the middle (say 3.6 to 3.9) that are just getting deferred or denied. This is worrisome because this is a big part of each class.

Lots of deferrals from 3.75-3.9
That in previous years would have been admits.

Sounds like the same as last year

I have kids at two Big3 schools and what I've been hearing is that the kids getting in are the top kids 3.95+ and the kids aiming outright for less competitive schools (say, Syracuse, South Carolina, Colorado, second tier liberal arts colleges etc).
The instagrams look great but what you're seeing are the athletic recruits, 3.95+ kids, and some legacies (mostly VIP legacies).
It's the middle (say 3.6 to 3.9) that are just getting deferred or denied. This is worrisome because this is a big part of each class.

I think it's the same as in recent years... it's really tough out there. Can't be that much of a surprise if you've been paying attention. Advice is to make a list with targets and safeties that your kid would be happy with

Are you seeing a ton - more than usual - deferrals if top/competitive candidates in ED/EA than in the past year or two?

What are the private CCO advising as to strategy?