Anonymous wrote:If a school has AP, what are the other reasons people use for transfer?

Does the list perfectly matchup with FARMs percentiles?

The non TJ transfers I know out of McLean are to IB.

Anonymous wrote:Teachers can also pupil place their own children at their school OR the school closest to their own that their child is eligible to attend . (So if the parent teaches elementary, they can transfer their teenage child to the high school nearest to the elementary school where they teach.)

That would account for some transfers.

This is no longer true. It is up to space availability and principal approval.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data. How coincidental that the top 10 schools with most transfers out (excluding TJ) almost perfectly matches up with the top 10 schools that have the most Black/Hispanic kids. For whatever reason, there is a flight of White and Asian kids from those pyramids.

We transferred our Asian kids from one "brown" school to another "brown" school (IB to AP) so I think you need to have more data before making such an assumption.

Teachers can also pupil place their own children at their school OR the school closest to their own that their child is eligible to attend . (So if the parent teaches elementary, they can transfer their teenage child to the high school nearest to the elementary school where they teach.)

That would account for some transfers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears these are the schools sending 25 or more kids to another school other than TJ this year:

Mount Vernon to Hayfield (186)
Herndon to South Lakes (157)
Robinson to Lake Braddock (99)
Annandale to Lake Braddock (90)
Hayfield to Edison (64)
Lewis to Edison (50)
West Springfield to Lake Braddock (46)
Langley to McLean (46) [as noted above, this is likely a "funny number" based on how FCPS classifies kids grandfathered under the 2021 Langley/McLean boundary change]
Edison to Hayfield (38)
Westfield to South Lakes (34)
Marshall to Madison (33)
Falls Church to Annandale (30)
West Potomac to Mount Vernon (30)
South Lakes to Langley (29)
Westfield to Chantilly (25)
Hayfield to Lake Braddock (25)

Where are the other Marshall students going besides Madison?

It looks like there are 105 kids transferring out of Marshall this year to schools other than TJ, including to Madison (33), Langley (16), and McLean (12). So those three schools account for 61 of the 105 transfers. Other Marshall kids transferred to Fairfax, Justice, Lake Braddock, Lewis, Mount Vernon, Oakton, and Woodson, but FCPS does not provide the specific numbers when fewer than 10 kids transfer from one school to another.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a school has AP, what are the other reasons people use for transfer?

Does the list perfectly matchup with FARMs percentiles?

Could be for a foreign language or Academy program, could be a family with a senior that moved but wants to finish at their old school, might be a placement to a new school after a disciplinary incident - there are other reasons besides pupil placing for AP or IB.

The second list doesn't perfectly match up with FARMS percentages. The number of kids transferring also gets affected by other factors, such as whether schools are open or closed to transfers and how people perceive the transfer options relative to their assigned school.

It doesn't perfectly line up with farms, but the poor schools have the most transfers out and the rich schools have the fewest

Correct, in the sense that if you look at the 10 schools with the most transfers excluding TJ, only two would not be considered high FARMS (Westfield and Robinson) and if you look at the 10 with the fewest transfers excluding TJ, only one is considered high FARMS (Edison).

In Westfield's case, the total #s may get skewed by the fact that it's a big school. In Robinson's case, you have a lot of kids who did AAP at Lake Braddock in middle school and want to stay there for high school. Edison sends a few dozen kids to Hayfield, but otherwise doesn't send a lot of kids to other schools (and receives more kids from each of Hayfield and Lewis than it sends to Hayfield).

Westfield to South Lakes looks like IB transfers. Robinson is probably placing kids out for APs, would be my guess.

Anonymous wrote:It appears these are the schools sending 25 or more kids to another school other than TJ this year:

Mount Vernon to Hayfield (186)
Herndon to South Lakes (157)
Robinson to Lake Braddock (99)
Annandale to Lake Braddock (90)
Hayfield to Edison (64)
Lewis to Edison (50)
West Springfield to Lake Braddock (46)
Langley to McLean (46) [as noted above, this is likely a "funny number" based on how FCPS classifies kids grandfathered under the 2021 Langley/McLean boundary change]
Edison to Hayfield (38)
Westfield to South Lakes (34)
Marshall to Madison (33)
Falls Church to Annandale (30)
West Potomac to Mount Vernon (30)
South Lakes to Langley (29)
Westfield to Chantilly (25)
Hayfield to Lake Braddock (25)

Where are the other Marshall students going besides Madison?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a school has AP, what are the other reasons people use for transfer?

Does the list perfectly matchup with FARMs percentiles?

Could be for a foreign language or Academy program, could be a family with a senior that moved but wants to finish at their old school, might be a placement to a new school after a disciplinary incident - there are other reasons besides pupil placing for AP or IB.

The second list doesn't perfectly match up with FARMS percentages. The number of kids transferring also gets affected by other factors, such as whether schools are open or closed to transfers and how people perceive the transfer options relative to their assigned school.

It doesn't perfectly line up with farms, but the poor schools have the most transfers out and the rich schools have the fewest

Correct, in the sense that if you look at the 10 schools with the most transfers excluding TJ, only two would not be considered high FARMS (Westfield and Robinson) and if you look at the 10 with the fewest transfers excluding TJ, only one is considered high FARMS (Edison).

In Westfield's case, the total #s may get skewed by the fact that it's a big school. In Robinson's case, you have a lot of kids who did AAP at Lake Braddock in middle school and want to stay there for high school. Edison sends a few dozen kids to Hayfield, but otherwise doesn't send a lot of kids to other schools (and receives more kids from each of Hayfield and Lewis than it sends to Hayfield).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a school has AP, what are the other reasons people use for transfer?

Does the list perfectly matchup with FARMs percentiles?

Could be for a foreign language or Academy program, could be a family with a senior that moved but wants to finish at their old school, might be a placement to a new school after a disciplinary incident - there are other reasons besides pupil placing for AP or IB.

The second list doesn't perfectly match up with FARMS percentages. The number of kids transferring also gets affected by other factors, such as whether schools are open or closed to transfers and how people perceive the transfer options relative to their assigned school.

It doesn't perfectly line up with farms, but the poor schools have the most transfers out and the rich schools have the fewest

Anonymous wrote:If a school has AP, what are the other reasons people use for transfer?

Does the list perfectly matchup with FARMs percentiles?

Could be for a foreign language or Academy program, could be a family with a senior that moved but wants to finish at their old school, might be a placement to a new school after a disciplinary incident - there are other reasons besides pupil placing for AP or IB.

The second list doesn't perfectly match up with FARMS percentages. The number of kids transferring also gets affected by other factors, such as whether schools are open or closed to transfers and how people perceive the transfer options relative to their assigned school.

It appears these are the schools sending 25 or more kids to another school other than TJ this year:

Mount Vernon to Hayfield (186)
Herndon to South Lakes (157)
Robinson to Lake Braddock (99)
Annandale to Lake Braddock (90)
Hayfield to Edison (64)
Lewis to Edison (50)
West Springfield to Lake Braddock (46)
Langley to McLean (46) [as noted above, this is likely a "funny number" based on how FCPS classifies kids grandfathered under the 2021 Langley/McLean boundary change]
Edison to Hayfield (38)
Westfield to South Lakes (34)
Marshall to Madison (33)
Falls Church to Annandale (30)
West Potomac to Mount Vernon (30)
South Lakes to Langley (29)
Westfield to Chantilly (25)
Hayfield to Lake Braddock (25)

If a school has AP, what are the other reasons people use for transfer?

Does the list perfectly matchup with FARMs percentiles?

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data. How coincidental that the top 10 schools with most transfers out (excluding TJ) almost perfectly matches up with the top 10 schools that have the most Black/Hispanic kids. For whatever reason, there is a flight of White and Asian kids from those pyramids.

And some of them are the smallest as well.

Interesting data. How coincidental that the top 10 schools with most transfers out (excluding TJ) almost perfectly matches up with the top 10 schools that have the most Black/Hispanic kids. For whatever reason, there is a flight of White and Asian kids from those pyramids.

FCPS recently updated its capacity dashboard to reflect transfer information for 2023-24, including for FCPS high schools.

Some information below on transfers out and the # of the transfers reflecting kids at TJHSST:

Mount Vernon 326 (22 to TJ)
Annandale 314 (53 to TJ)
Herndon 287 (24 to TJ)
Westfield 252 (80 to TJ)
Lewis 226 (33 to TJ)
Langley 211 (117 to TJ)
Falls Church 209 (24 to TJ)
Robinson 206 (48 to TJ)
Justice 202 (20 to TJ)
Hayfield 198 (29 to TJ)
Chantilly 196 (126 to TJ)
Oakton 196 (112 to TJ)
South Lakes 196 (46 to TJ)
West Potomac 191 (26 to TJ)
Fairfax 189 (52 to TJ)
McLean 182 (129 to TJ)
Marshall 168 (63 to TJ)
Centreville 158 (44 to TJ)
West Springfield 152 (48 to TJ)
Woodson 139 (73 to TJ)
Lake Braddock 134 (34 to TJ)
South County 133 (28 to TJ)
Edison 131 (29 to TJ)
Madison 114 (58 to TJ)

Presented differently as transfers out excluding TJ placements:

Mount Vernon 304
Herndon 263
Annandale 261
Lewis 193
Falls Church 185
Justice 182
Westfield 172
Hayfield 169
West Potomac 165
Robinson 158
South Lakes 150
Fairfax 137
Centreville 114
Marshall 105
South County 105
West Springfield 104
Edison 102
Lake Braddock 100
Langley 94 [this # would be lower but for the treatment of certain "grandfathered" students living in areas rezoned from McLean to Langley in 2021]
Oakton 84
Chantilly 70
Woodson 66
Madison 56
McLean 53