Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 07:32     Subject: Re:Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
If the definition of "normal" to you is > 50% yes I think it's normal to have narcissistic tendencies. Actually I think most toddlers are narcissistic.

Is it good, a goal to remain narcissistic... no, it's not good or normal. You should try to evolve past being a toddler or having toddler level skills at coping with other humans.

Most people marry/date our of attraction and love but once being with the person day in and day out they are most qualified to point out actions that are disordered.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2024 07:27     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Agree. Of course.

I watched a brother mis-diagnose his daughter. She was very manipulative. She chose whatever symptoms she read on line. Some family members discount evil/nasty/awful/mal-adjusted/ willfully ignorant / or never been-taught. Some cases.Not all.

In this scenario, it’s hard to admit your ex (who you chose) or family member has bad character or treats others poorly. Not everyone has a personality disorder.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 12:07     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:I hundred percent agree with this OP.People get carried away with their labels. Normal nasty behavior exists. Posters who write, “But [condition] does exist!!” are missing the point here.

All the people in jail have authority opposition disorders. Those poor souls.

Of course your ex is a complete #% Let’s face is amateur diagnosis are fun. Making up fun is part of being an animal too.


Agree. In part.

Because at some point the labels don’t matter.

The abusive behavior, the chronic patterns, the bad habits, the hurt & suffering that follow over and over again are what matter.

And you ID that, seek therapy, confirm what is going on & get strong, see things crystal clearly, and GTFO safely and quickly as possible.

And don’t ever waste time trying to reason or convince an untreated mentally ill person of something. Waste of time, energy and emotion.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 08:30     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
I hundred percent agree with this OP.People get carried away with their labels. Normal nasty behavior exists. Posters who write, “But [condition] does exist!!” are missing the point here.

All the people in jail have authority opposition disorders. Those poor souls.

Of course your ex is a complete #% Let’s face is amateur diagnosis are fun. Making up fun is part of being an animal too.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 06:36     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?


People have self-interest/self-preservation tendencies because that is part of being an animal. Anything considered narcissistic should be above and beyond what is typical human behavior.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 06:34     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?


No.

People who have terrible behavior patterns stick out to others who are self aware and grounded. Those functional, healthy people may start to feel depressed or that something is wrong and talk to others or seek help. By doing that they discover and learn they may be a frog in a pot of boiling up water. They are being abused, there may be mental or personality disorders at play in their partner. They then seek professional help and further explain things and ask for coping help. There they may further narrow down a diagnosis for their partner or at least how to mitigate things or plan an exit.

Do you really think an a-hole prick is going to do all that? To find out what is wrong or what is going on or how to fix their relationship? h no. But their partner may do that to find out wtf is going on in all that fog and games and emotional abuse.


Good post.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 22:26     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?


Dude. Untreated mental disorders are real, chronic, and damaging.

Given your naive post, I’m glad you never encountered anyone close with one or two.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 22:24     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?


Everyone is naturally self interested. People act selfish toward people they do not need or care for. People also are mean and justify their feelings in order to reconcile them. No one is becoming their mother. No one is becoming their father. So yes, duh, of course.


No.

Many people put their children’s or partner’s needs first and before their own.

People who are mean and then rationalize that look like lunatics to a normal, functional person. Sure they routinely lie to themselves, but they can’t keep up the facade to a healthy person.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 22:21     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?


No.

People who have terrible behavior patterns stick out to others who are self aware and grounded. Those functional, healthy people may start to feel depressed or that something is wrong and talk to others or seek help. By doing that they discover and learn they may be a frog in a pot of boiling up water. They are being abused, there may be mental or personality disorders at play in their partner. They then seek professional help and further explain things and ask for coping help. There they may further narrow down a diagnosis for their partner or at least how to mitigate things or plan an exit.

Do you really think an a-hole prick is going to do all that? To find out what is wrong or what is going on or how to fix their relationship? h no. But their partner may do that to find out wtf is going on in all that fog and games and emotional abuse.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 22:15     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?


Not sure what your post is about.

My spouse had a $5k, 4 hour neuropsych test in his late 30s.

He may have had one as a child but his mother hid that fact and results. For his brother she hid half the results, and called all these Dx “dyslexia” so the brother felt better. He’s still 40+ and living at home depressed, in no meds and no understanding or knowledge of what he likely has.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 20:58     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?


Everyone is naturally self interested. People act selfish toward people they do not need or care for. People also are mean and justify their feelings in order to reconcile them. No one is becoming their mother. No one is becoming their father. So yes, duh, of course.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 15:47     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
Anonymous wrote:I think people who are totally stressed and in terrible relationships resort to self preserving behavior which can look like narcissism or any number of disorders in the DSM.



No doubt about that, there is a huge variety of coping mechanisms.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 14:14     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
I think people who are totally stressed and in terrible relationships resort to self preserving behavior which can look like narcissism or any number of disorders in the DSM.

Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 13:55     Subject: Diagnosed by disgruntled partner or bitter ex
It seems most psychological diagnoses are made by people's disgruntled partners or ex-partners. Everyone and their mom is narcissistic and gas lights etc etc.

Is it possible that most humans are on narcissistic spectrum and actually only abnormal ones aren't?