Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:49     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Donut shaped-hole.

The outer ring is the very wealthy who can pay.

The inner ring/circle in the middle is the families with a low-zero income who get lots of aid.

Think of the center dot of the circle and income of zero, and then draw the radius out to mean increasing income.


PP who talked about income distribution. This is the explanation I needed. Thank you!


you are welcome! Wish we could draw in DCUM, would be easy to see with concentric circles.


DP. I never thought of it as two concentric circles. So it’s like two 🍩? A big one representing rich folks. A smaller inner one representing poor folks. And the space in the middle is middle class?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:45     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never understood this metaphor and still don’t. If income distribution were circular, I could picture it, but great wealth doesn’t loop around and eventually become impoverished.

What am I missing?


It’s more of a cross-section of a doughnut. Two mountains with a valley in the middle. Poor enough, you get a mountain of aid. Rich enough, you have a mountain of savings/income. Snack in the middle, there’s insufficient funds/insufficient aid. There’s a sliding scale on the margins.


This helps too!
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:44     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Donut shaped-hole.

The outer ring is the very wealthy who can pay.

The inner ring/circle in the middle is the families with a low-zero income who get lots of aid.

Think of the center dot of the circle and income of zero, and then draw the radius out to mean increasing income.


PP who talked about income distribution. This is the explanation I needed. Thank you!


Disagree. People in the hole don’t have zero income. They can’t afford college of choice due to being between receiving aid and having $$$$.


I think the hole isn’t income, it’s affordability relative to income
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:41     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Donut shaped-hole.

The outer ring is the very wealthy who can pay.

The inner ring/circle in the middle is the families with a low-zero income who get lots of aid.

Think of the center dot of the circle and income of zero, and then draw the radius out to mean increasing income.


PP who talked about income distribution. This is the explanation I needed. Thank you!


Disagree. People in the hole don’t have zero income. They can’t afford college of choice due to being between receiving aid and having $$$$.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:41     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Donut shaped-hole.

The outer ring is the very wealthy who can pay.

The inner ring/circle in the middle is the families with a low-zero income who get lots of aid.

Think of the center dot of the circle and income of zero, and then draw the radius out to mean increasing income.


PP who talked about income distribution. This is the explanation I needed. Thank you!


you are welcome! Wish we could draw in DCUM, would be easy to see with concentric circles.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:39     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:I have never understood this metaphor and still don’t. If income distribution were circular, I could picture it, but great wealth doesn’t loop around and eventually become impoverished.

What am I missing?


It’s more of a cross-section of a doughnut. Two mountains with a valley in the middle. Poor enough, you get a mountain of aid. Rich enough, you have a mountain of savings/income. Snack in the middle, there’s insufficient funds/insufficient aid. There’s a sliding scale on the margins.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:36     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:Donut shaped-hole.

The outer ring is the very wealthy who can pay.

The inner ring/circle in the middle is the families with a low-zero income who get lots of aid.

Think of the center dot of the circle and income of zero, and then draw the radius out to mean increasing income.


PP who talked about income distribution. This is the explanation I needed. Thank you!
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:35     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:I have never understood this metaphor and still don’t. If income distribution were circular, I could picture it, but great wealth doesn’t loop around and eventually become impoverished.

What am I missing?


The metaphor is for the middle being the part that gets left out.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:34     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Donut shaped-hole.

The outer ring is the very wealthy who can pay.

The inner ring/circle in the middle is the families with a low-zero income who get lots of aid.

Think of the center dot of the circle and income of zero, and then draw the radius out to mean increasing income.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:33     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

I have never understood this metaphor and still don’t. If income distribution were circular, I could picture it, but great wealth doesn’t loop around and eventually become impoverished.

What am I missing?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:25     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone who makes too much money to qualify for financial aid but doesn't make enough not to feel the pinch of paying full price.


How is a donut or donut hole a metaphor for that?


It’s a donut shaped hole, not a hole in a donut.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 11:18     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone who makes too much money to qualify for financial aid but doesn't make enough not to feel the pinch of paying full price.


How is a donut or donut hole a metaphor for that?


My income is the hole in the middle.

If I was poorer I could eat from the left half (need based aid)

If I was richer I could eat from the right half (full pay)

I can’t eat either one, only the hole is left.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 10:47     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Anonymous wrote:Someone who makes too much money to qualify for financial aid but doesn't make enough not to feel the pinch of paying full price.


How is a donut or donut hole a metaphor for that?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 10:46     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?

Someone who makes too much money to qualify for financial aid but doesn't make enough not to feel the pinch of paying full price.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 10:45     Subject: What is a donut family? A donut hole family?


Can someone please properly define what a "donut family" and a "donut hole family" are?