Anonymous
Post 01/10/2024 05:56     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Anonymous wrote:I think at Longfellow you can do a retake for a score less than 80 but the maximum score recorded is 80. So if you got a 70 on the original test and 100 on the retest, it goes down as 80.

Is a 90 a 3.0? How are grades converted to the 4.0 scale?
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 21:57     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Are retests allowed? Is there a maximum grade allowed from a retest?

Not at our school, and obviously it would be highly unfair to those students who study and get the test right the first time.

But the teacher allows test corrections to be submitted that count for 25% of the missed points if correct.
Example: you get an 80/100 and resubmit correct answers for what you missed, you end up with a 80 + 0.25 * 20 = 85.


that sounds like the fairest policy and ensures that teachers show the kids which things they missed. I'd vote for this for an FCPS wide rule. Only allowing retests for under 90.


If it’s about mastery and not ranking, shouldn’t retests be blanket allowance for anyone able to retake. So whether get C, B or even A- should be allowed to retake or if got A and want to try to go from 98% to 100%. Isn’t limiting who can retake a class rank mentality, which thought FCPS moving away from?


In a perfect world, maybe. In the real world, it wouldn't work the way you seem to think it would. Teachers have to write a new test for the retakes. Writing new tests is time consumptive, so the teacher is likely to create a test that is pretty similar to the previous one. Kids can game the system and learn even less, since they can use the first testing to scope out the test and see what they need to study, and then they can get high grades on the second test while still learning less of the material than the kid who studied everything the first time and got a 90. My school offered retests back in the 90s, and tons of kids did exactly that to minimize how much they needed to learn.

Letting kids retake As for even higher As just creates a lot of extra work for already overburdened teachers.


Nah. It’s not that hard to write a different test. We write 4 versions of every test (2 for A days, 2 for B days) where the problems are identical but the numbers or graphs are different, as well as a 5th version for the retake that is completely different. Same standards, assessed in totally different ways.

Of all the things overburdening me as a math teacher, retakes aren’t one.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 21:53     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
My school allows retakes up to 100 for anything. Kids can retake 93s as well as 52s, and if they get 100 the second time it goes in the gradebook as 100.

The reality is it happens rarely. Usually the retake is within 10 points of the original, and the kids getting 90s the first time aren’t going to go to all the trouble of remediation/corrections/retake to get a few more points.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 13:46     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are retests allowed? Is there a maximum grade allowed from a retest?

Not at our school, and obviously it would be highly unfair to those students who study and get the test right the first time.

But the teacher allows test corrections to be submitted that count for 25% of the missed points if correct.
Example: you get an 80/100 and resubmit correct answers for what you missed, you end up with a 80 + 0.25 * 20 = 85.


that sounds like the fairest policy and ensures that teachers show the kids which things they missed. I'd vote for this for an FCPS wide rule. Only allowing retests for under 90.


If it’s about mastery and not ranking, shouldn’t retests be blanket allowance for anyone able to retake. So whether get C, B or even A- should be allowed to retake or if got A and want to try to go from 98% to 100%. Isn’t limiting who can retake a class rank mentality, which thought FCPS moving away from?


In a perfect world, maybe. In the real world, it wouldn't work the way you seem to think it would. Teachers have to write a new test for the retakes. Writing new tests is time consumptive, so the teacher is likely to create a test that is pretty similar to the previous one. Kids can game the system and learn even less, since they can use the first testing to scope out the test and see what they need to study, and then they can get high grades on the second test while still learning less of the material than the kid who studied everything the first time and got a 90. My school offered retests back in the 90s, and tons of kids did exactly that to minimize how much they needed to learn.

Letting kids retake As for even higher As just creates a lot of extra work for already overburdened teachers.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 12:24     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are retests allowed? Is there a maximum grade allowed from a retest?

Not at our school, and obviously it would be highly unfair to those students who study and get the test right the first time.

But the teacher allows test corrections to be submitted that count for 25% of the missed points if correct.
Example: you get an 80/100 and resubmit correct answers for what you missed, you end up with a 80 + 0.25 * 20 = 85.


that sounds like the fairest policy and ensures that teachers show the kids which things they missed. I'd vote for this for an FCPS wide rule. Only allowing retests for under 90.


If it’s about mastery and not ranking, shouldn’t retests be blanket allowance for anyone able to retake. So whether get C, B or even A- should be allowed to retake or if got A and want to try to go from 98% to 100%. Isn’t limiting who can retake a class rank mentality, which thought FCPS moving away from?
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 12:13     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are retests allowed? Is there a maximum grade allowed from a retest?

Not at our school, and obviously it would be highly unfair to those students who study and get the test right the first time.

But the teacher allows test corrections to be submitted that count for 25% of the missed points if correct.
Example: you get an 80/100 and resubmit correct answers for what you missed, you end up with a 80 + 0.25 * 20 = 85.


that sounds like the fairest policy and ensures that teachers show the kids which things they missed. I'd vote for this for an FCPS wide rule. Only allowing retests for under 90.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 11:54     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
I think at Longfellow you can do a retake for a score less than 80 but the maximum score recorded is 80. So if you got a 70 on the original test and 100 on the retest, it goes down as 80.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 10:12     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Anonymous wrote:Are retests allowed? Is there a maximum grade allowed from a retest?

Not at our school, and obviously it would be highly unfair to those students who study and get the test right the first time.

But the teacher allows test corrections to be submitted that count for 25% of the missed points if correct.
Example: you get an 80/100 and resubmit correct answers for what you missed, you end up with a 80 + 0.25 * 20 = 85.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 08:12     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Anonymous wrote:Are retests allowed? Is there a maximum grade allowed from a retest?


At my DD’s school, yes and yes. The cap is usually around 90.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 07:29     Subject: Re:Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Ask the Teacher. We have no way of knowing because different schools and Teachers have different policies.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 06:45     Subject: Retests? Algebra 1 HN
Are retests allowed? Is there a maximum grade allowed from a retest?