Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:57     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Alissa Heinerscheid and Claudine Gay took well known brands and through gross incompetence destroyed them overnight.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:29     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.


Only terminally online people care about this nonsense.


That's the attitude of people who think no number of missteps can possibly damage the reputation or standing of a Harvard. At some point that becomes wishful rather than well-grounded thinking.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:26     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Harvard has been through worse
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:26     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Know someone who recently decided between Stanford, Harvard, and mit. So yes, this is happening.


Impressive and highly unusual. What was their profile like? GPA? Public or private high? SAT/ACT? ECs?


Not unusual in my circles.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:24     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.


Only terminally online people care about this nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:22     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Know someone who recently decided between Stanford, Harvard, and mit. So yes, this is happening.


Impressive and highly unusual. What was their profile like? GPA? Public or private high? SAT/ACT? ECs?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:11     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.


Harvard is a notch or two below others. It's in the unenviable league with Stanford. Both institutions' presidents resigned in disgrace. They both go to the back of the line behind their peers.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:11     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Know someone who recently decided between Stanford, Harvard, and mit. So yes, this is happening.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:06     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
It's not like students are sitting around choosing between Harvard and Stanford. Harvard and Stanford are choosing between them.

Harvard won't suffer from a MAGA boycott.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:04     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh, you naive little thing.

Every Ivy could fill up their freshman class a hundred times over with hungry applicants from all over the world, if all their current students quit over their supposed "bad press".

No, it's not going to change anything for your precious snowflake's application.



I disagree.

Applications were down 17 percent at Harvard this year. And that was before all the issues. They will take another hit next year.

Yale has been on the decline for some time. Very progressive. Abusive students. No meaningful STEM, comparatively.

MIT, Stanford, and Princeton are what's what for the very top.

There are a lot of schools who could fill their classes many times over. UCLA gets more than a 100,000 apps. BU gets more than 60,000.

But in general, Ivy League is not what it was. MIT, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Duke, Northwestern, Rice, Chicago, Carnegie Mellon, not to mention publics like Michigan and Berkeley.

People don't really give a damn about Harvard anymore. Particularly not young people.


I think you are largely right. Yale was already a bit out there, and Harvard is now eating itself alive. MIT, Stanford, and Princeton seem to be relatively unscathed in comparison, and kids are realizing there are a lot of other great options where you can avoid getting sucked into the political infighting.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 18:43     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Oh, you naive little thing.

Every Ivy could fill up their freshman class a hundred times over with hungry applicants from all over the world, if all their current students quit over their supposed "bad press".

No, it's not going to change anything for your precious snowflake's application.



I disagree.

Applications were down 17 percent at Harvard this year. And that was before all the issues. They will take another hit next year.

Yale has been on the decline for some time. Very progressive. Abusive students. No meaningful STEM, comparatively.

MIT, Stanford, and Princeton are what's what for the very top.

There are a lot of schools who could fill their classes many times over. UCLA gets more than a 100,000 apps. BU gets more than 60,000.

But in general, Ivy League is not what it was. MIT, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Duke, Northwestern, Rice, Chicago, Carnegie Mellon, not to mention publics like Michigan and Berkeley.

People don't really give a damn about Harvard anymore. Particularly not young people.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 18:00     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Oh, you naive little thing.

Every Ivy could fill up their freshman class a hundred times over with hungry applicants from all over the world, if all their current students quit over their supposed "bad press".

No, it's not going to change anything for your precious snowflake's application.


Sounds like someone really can't handle the idea that Harvard's brand is being diluted.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 15:28     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Anonymous wrote:Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.


Most likely Yale.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 15:27     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Oh, you naive little thing.

Every Ivy could fill up their freshman class a hundred times over with hungry applicants from all over the world, if all their current students quit over their supposed "bad press".

No, it's not going to change anything for your precious snowflake's application.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 15:25     Subject: Do Harvard's Problems Benefit Stanford/Princeton/Yale or Just Drag Down All the Ivies?
Curious as to whether all the bad press about Harvard lately makes its rivals look better by comparison, or just drags down all the elite schools.

My gut is that this is a boon to Stanford and Princeton in particular, and maybe less so to Yale (given that Yale is so far left now), but may it just unleashes all the negative feelings that others have towards the traditionally elite schools, especially the Ivies.