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Anonymous wrote:Wondering if we should uncheck the box at some of these schools. I know which are need blind, but is there more to it in your experience? Are there some top, say, 30 schools that seem to really boost full pay kids?

If not, I’d like to keep the box checked just in case a year or two down the road I drop dead, my family has the option to file for FA

People’s financial circumstances change all the time, even among the UC. As a result, no one expects your application to decline FA for the next four years.

this is school by school. many top colleges say you if you apply as not needing aid, you cannot later apply for aid. Yes, some will allow for change of circumstance, but some will not. They're very clear about that on application. They know they full pay is a boost and pivoting off that the next year is a bait and switch in some schools minds. Check the box unless you're a millionaire many times over.

Anonymous wrote:can you share the schools you are trying to figure out?

Sure. Junior kid so list in formation - need to see a lot of these and he goes to one of those high school that limit apps to 10 so the reaches will be edited down - but:

Harvard
UPenn
Cornell
Georgetown
Vandy
ND
Rice
Northwestern
BU
GWU
Denison
UChicago
Tufts
USC
Bing
MI
WI
Ohio State

Anonymous wrote:After top 25-30, I’d say full pay can help at any private.

Or not. Mine was rejected by 6 LACs.

Anonymous wrote:Canadian & British universities seem to like American cash.

+1. UK and European universities usually need full-pay international students just to balance the books. Subsidized or free local students in thise places mean those unis generally lose money on every local student. Canadian unis are not as dire financially as Uk/Europe, but still want full-pay international students. Careful though, top universities anywhere on the globe get enough applicants that one still needs to be academically solid.

Anonymous wrote:Not a hook at any top school, but it might help some at some OOS publics that are not giving much aid to out of staters.

+1

Good point. Check out the UK, Ireland, and Canada. They admit by stats, so you can get in somewhere good without top ECs.

Canadian & British universities seem to like American cash.

Full pay families are a dime a dozen at Top 30-70 schools. Schools like Wake, Tulane, u Miami have tons of full pay families that get rejected every year.

Only at need-aware, meet-full-need schools, which is none of the top national universities. A decent number of the top 30 LACs fall into this category, though.

Anonymous wrote:Wondering if we should uncheck the box at some of these schools. I know which are need blind, but is there more to it in your experience? Are there some top, say, 30 schools that seem to really boost full pay kids?

If not, I’d like to keep the box checked just in case a year or two down the road I drop dead, my family has the option to file for FA

People’s financial circumstances change all the time, even among the UC. As a result, no one expects your application to decline FA for the next four years.

It is not a hook anywhere except for schools that are at risk of going under. Over 85% of all students receive some financial aid.

After top 25-30, I’d say full pay can help at any private.

Not a hook at any top school, but it might help some at some OOS publics that are not giving much aid to out of staters.

can you share the schools you are trying to figure out?

Wondering if we should uncheck the box at some of these schools. I know which are need blind, but is there more to it in your experience? Are there some top, say, 30 schools that seem to really boost full pay kids?

If not, I’d like to keep the box checked just in case a year or two down the road I drop dead, my family has the option to file for FA