American male tennis is not in a good space right now - international kids are way better and colleges prefer them

Honestly, he needs to build out the rest of his extracurriculars.

Anonymous wrote:Top 600 to go to a top 20 school? Heck no. Most of their players are from outside the country. I would assume he’s already been in touch with coaches? You’d know if there was interest. He’s better off going somewhere based on his stats and play club. If he wants to be at a top 20 school playing tennis he literally has to play international tournaments. Your kid should look at the rosters of the schools he likes, check out their experience and UTR and compare it to his. That is the best way to see where he may fit in a team. My DS plays club tennis at a top 25 school and loves it. Could have been recruited to a crap d2 or d3 but he is happier going to a good school and is still able to play the sport competitively.

YESSSSSSSSSS!!! My best friend is European and tennis is the sport they put their kids in to get a full ride and/or Ivy acceptance--or at least top 50 US schools. It is a total business over there. I saw the profiles, the training and the agencies through her and was blown away.

600-- there are 8 Ivy league schools. Think how many tennis spots there are total for 8 schools. Yeah---600 is a total longshot.

Google the roster at your schools of interest then look at how the players were ranked in HS.

Maybe try to go D3 with a tip for tennis? Your son is a strong student but as you have noted the strong academic kids are now struggling to get into top 30 schools without a hook.

Perhaps try for a top school with a weaker tennis program?

Know of someone in the top 300. D1 and D3 schools not interested.

Anonymous wrote:Asian male
Tennis player rated in the top 600 in nation
3.9/4.0 GPA, 7 AP's by sophomore year + 5 AP's next year
SAT not taken yet, but expecting around 1500 per practice tests
Volunteered at hospital and some research at a university but nothing published.

Not sure about major, but definitely not engineering or medicine. Maybe interested in law or business.

What are his chances among the top 30 universities? Great? Reasonable? Not likely?

Being among among the top 600 in anything is great.

But it's not going lead to an athletic scholarship to Stanford.

Check out the bios of the tennis players at the schools your son is interested in. Most of the really good tennis programs do tend to be among the higher tier schools. But it's not football, with it's 100+ spots every year. It's tennis. Maybe one spot opens every year.

My youngest kid deals with this. Now a freshman at a D1 T20 school. Track. Recruited by tons of D3 schools. Definitely top 200 in his fields. But he got in to his school because of his academic credentials. It's a D1 school though. Not a lot of 18 year olds are competitive with sixth year 23 year olds. Would suspect the same with tennis.

No athletic scholarship. No boost.

But he had contacted the coach. Invited to practice with the team to get his times up. Will do his things competitively next year.

Point is, there are very few spots for the more obscure sports - tennis, track. Do it if you love it. Reach out to the coaches But when it comes to admissions, it's the academics that matter most

But do reach out to the coaches.

Top 600 to go to a top 20 school? Heck no. Most of their players are from outside the country. I would assume he’s already been in touch with coaches? You’d know if there was interest. He’s better off going somewhere based on his stats and play club. If he wants to be at a top 20 school playing tennis he literally has to play international tournaments. Your kid should look at the rosters of the schools he likes, check out their experience and UTR and compare it to his. That is the best way to see where he may fit in a team. My DS plays club tennis at a top 25 school and loves it. Could have been recruited to a crap d2 or d3 but he is happier going to a good school and is still able to play the sport competitively.

Many top colleges, including those that are DIII, have strong athletic programs too. As others suggested, look at current rosters to see how highly ranked players were in high school. That should give you an idea

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Anonymous wrote:Yes he is trying to be recruited.

No particular university at this time but U Chicago, U Mich, Duke, Princeton, U Penn are some that he is interested. Wanted to see if it is worth checking out any of the top 20 or so universities.

Does he have to be among top 100 tennis players to have a good shot at being recruited in the top 20 universities?

Yes

Yes, last year a girl at my DD's school was top 90 and also a top student was recruited being Yale and Harvard.

Anonymous wrote:Yes he is trying to be recruited.

No particular university at this time but U Chicago, U Mich, Duke, Princeton, U Penn are some that he is interested. Wanted to see if it is worth checking out any of the top 20 or so universities.

Does he have to be among top 100 tennis players to have a good shot at being recruited in the top 20 universities?

I think you are going to have a hard time getting recruited to a D1 school, such as U Mich, Duke, or an Ivy.

I think you have a good shot at a D3 school, although the top ones that are considered Universities are often schools where athletics can help but not guarantee admissions.

If you were willing to consider other options, such as NESCAC schools that are top D3 schools but not "universities" I think you would be more likely to find a spot.

Having said all this, my athlete kid isn't a tennis player so I could be wrong.

On your list, U Chicago seems promising.

Anonymous wrote:Yes he is trying to be recruited.

No particular university at this time but U Chicago, U Mich, Duke, Princeton, U Penn are some that he is interested. Wanted to see if it is worth checking out any of the top 20 or so universities.

Does he have to be among top 100 tennis players to have a good shot at being recruited in the top 20 universities?

Yes

Yes he is trying to be recruited.

No particular university at this time but U Chicago, U Mich, Duke, Princeton, U Penn are some that he is interested. Wanted to see if it is worth checking out any of the top 20 or so universities.

Does he have to be among top 100 tennis players to have a good shot at being recruited in the top 20 universities?

Top 100 players, sure.

If he is going for a collegiate tennis team, then he should be in touch with the coaches. Otherwise, it won't make a difference.

I assume he is trying to be recruited?

What university is he aiming for? Look at that university’s tennis roster. Maybe Google some of their players to see their ranking while in high school?

Asian male
Tennis player rated in the top 600 in nation
3.9/4.0 GPA, 7 AP's by sophomore year + 5 AP's next year
SAT not taken yet, but expecting around 1500 per practice tests
Volunteered at hospital and some research at a university but nothing published.

Not sure about major, but definitely not engineering or medicine. Maybe interested in law or business.

What are his chances among the top 30 universities? Great? Reasonable? Not likely?