Anonymous
12/22/2023 12:55
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Anonymous wrote:Most minimum wage places would much rather hire the 16 year old who is already thinking about their college admissions than the adult that would want a minimum wage job.
No, not really.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 12:13
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Most minimum wage places would much rather hire the 16 year old who is already thinking about their college admissions than the adult that would want a minimum wage job.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 12:11
Subject: Re:What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Food service is a way to expose young teens to elicit drug use, one less hurdle to confront in college.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 12:05
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Anonymous wrote:Get OP that cheap burger.
actually, fast food and dish washing jobs is one of the central arguments to keeping min wage low in some states.
we have "lower pay for same work" already .. all over. It's just called being a woman.
AND we have made exceptions before based on age. You can do seasonal agricultural work when you're 14 without working papers. I grew up in Illinois, we all did that as soon as we turned 14.
I'd like to see it. Bonus points if you wait tables. So many skills flow from that
Anonymous
12/22/2023 12:02
Subject: Re:What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Anonymous wrote:They do. Jobs are heavily weighted in the EC's.
If you read Who Gets In and Why you can see they say they do, but they don't
Anonymous
12/22/2023 11:43
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Not as much as “experiences” like “working” as a chocolatier’s apprentice in France.
It’s unfortunate.
It’s unfortunate.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 11:33
Subject: Re:What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
They do. Jobs are heavily weighted in the EC's.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 11:32
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Exactly. We discounted elitist schools that do not value jobs or even consider them on the application.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 11:28
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
I think colleges should consider jobs as an EC. Some kids can’t afford to do athletics and need to work. Bonus points for working in service industries.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 11:24
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Get OP that cheap burger.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 11:19
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Your thread title and your text don't really match up.
I don't understand the concept of "overtly recruit kids with jobs". Meaning, some %age of our class is reserved for kids that can show a paid job? Obviously, if you did this...then every rich kid would get on the payroll at parent or parent friend company and game the system.
I don't necessarily think it is the minimum wage that is the problem. Historically, no adult would take a job at McDonald's thinking this was their lifetime job, and I think there was an understanding between the employer and employee regarding this.
Now, for some, it ended up being their lifetime job, and one would hope they were promoted to Manager of that franchise, and perhaps then a regional manager at much higher pay.
I think the role of these jobs has gotten warped where everyone thinks every job needs to pay a "living wage". You could argue that yes, McDonald's should charge much more for their food in order to pay these wages...however, that is not the business model.
It will result in AI and other technology replacing people. White Castle and others are now rolling out completely AI drive-through ordering systems, locations are implementing burger and fry robots (since their processes have become so standardized), etc.
I don't understand the concept of "overtly recruit kids with jobs". Meaning, some %age of our class is reserved for kids that can show a paid job? Obviously, if you did this...then every rich kid would get on the payroll at parent or parent friend company and game the system.
I don't necessarily think it is the minimum wage that is the problem. Historically, no adult would take a job at McDonald's thinking this was their lifetime job, and I think there was an understanding between the employer and employee regarding this.
Now, for some, it ended up being their lifetime job, and one would hope they were promoted to Manager of that franchise, and perhaps then a regional manager at much higher pay.
I think the role of these jobs has gotten warped where everyone thinks every job needs to pay a "living wage". You could argue that yes, McDonald's should charge much more for their food in order to pay these wages...however, that is not the business model.
It will result in AI and other technology replacing people. White Castle and others are now rolling out completely AI drive-through ordering systems, locations are implementing burger and fry robots (since their processes have become so standardized), etc.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 10:56
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
When I was in high school, I worked a job that paid way more than minimum wage. It required advanced skills that I had already developed.
Paying teenagers less than minimum wage is morally wrong. OP you are broken.
Paying teenagers less than minimum wage is morally wrong. OP you are broken.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 10:56
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Colleges do like kids with jobs. But there aren’t jobs for everyone. Do you want it take minimum-wage jobs away from those who have them now, just to pay less?
Anonymous
12/22/2023 10:55
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
Why should a teen do the same work and get paid less? Unless it involves a tuition break from the university that sounds like a bad deal for teens.
Anonymous
12/22/2023 10:54
Subject: What would happen if colleges overtly recruited kids who worked paid jobs.
I wonder what would happen if colleges came right out and said, volunteering is great and having a passion is important, but working a min wage job brings it's own set of skills.
Which is true.
And colleges asked for a form that your boss from McDonalds to fill out that was simple and became standard. How many hours they worked would be enough for me. Reference better. Maybe a W2 solves this.
Also, as a country, I think our min wage is messed up bcs of these fast food jobs. We all get paying 15/hr makes burgers cost more.
Maybe we could have a teen wage for 15-17 year olds that's 10/hr.
Anyone who works with people in their 20s knows that young people could learn a lot by working a public facing job before they get into the work force. Kids are lacking some basic skills iMO
If the top 100 colleges said they wanted to see it and word got out they don't mean working in mom's law firm, I'd love to see what would happen.
Which is true.
And colleges asked for a form that your boss from McDonalds to fill out that was simple and became standard. How many hours they worked would be enough for me. Reference better. Maybe a W2 solves this.
Also, as a country, I think our min wage is messed up bcs of these fast food jobs. We all get paying 15/hr makes burgers cost more.
Maybe we could have a teen wage for 15-17 year olds that's 10/hr.
Anyone who works with people in their 20s knows that young people could learn a lot by working a public facing job before they get into the work force. Kids are lacking some basic skills iMO
If the top 100 colleges said they wanted to see it and word got out they don't mean working in mom's law firm, I'd love to see what would happen.