Anonymous wrote:This survey is junk.

Surgeons have the lowest divorce rate? Lower than clergy? I don't think so.

That graph is oddly flipped, so clergy is lower than surgeons. It's a weird presentation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This survey is junk.

Surgeons have the lowest divorce rate? Lower than clergy? I don't think so.

Yeah, it's crap. First, it's voluntary and my guess is that surgeons are more likely to opt out. They're busy, they can't take surveys at work, and they're also more likely to be involved in higher-income divorces where an attorney is involved and is cautioning them not to talk about the divorce, even in a so-called "anonymous" poll.

Second, they only surveyed 1,000 people and of those, how many of those are surgeons? Surgeons make up a tiny segment of the US population.

These stats are based on bigger aggregate stats.

Anonymous wrote:This survey is junk.

Surgeons have the lowest divorce rate? Lower than clergy? I don't think so.

Yeah, it's crap. First, it's voluntary and my guess is that surgeons are more likely to opt out. They're busy, they can't take surveys at work, and they're also more likely to be involved in higher-income divorces where an attorney is involved and is cautioning them not to talk about the divorce, even in a so-called "anonymous" poll.

Second, they only surveyed 1,000 people and of those, how many of those are surgeons? Surgeons make up a tiny segment of the US population.

Anonymous wrote:These aren't reasons reasons, they are outcomes.

The title is what is interesting: lack of family support is the leading cause cited in 43% of marriages. I guess that means that the in-laws disapprove? Maybe the in-laws disapproving is less the causal factor and a sign that the partner really is bad for you. But who knows.

Or even if the in-laws approve, you absolutely cannot stand them?

Anonymous wrote:These aren't reasons reasons, they are outcomes.

The title is what is interesting: lack of family support is the leading cause cited in 43% of marriages. I guess that means that the in-laws disapprove? Maybe the in-laws disapproving is less the causal factor and a sign that the partner really is bad for you. But who knows.

I assumed the family support thing had to do with either kids or money (or both). Arguments over money and parenting are major stressors on a marriage, and they are more likely to happen if you are struggling. Having supportive family who can help with either or both of those things could thus help a marriage through those rough spots. If a young couple is struggling to save for a house and family helps with a down payment, that will boost the couple into a more stable phase of their relationship without the stress or anxiety that comes with not knowing if you'll ever have enough to buy. Similarly, the costs and stress of childcare when kids are under 5 are significant. Family that can help reduce that burden (anything from taking care of kids full time to kicking in money for daycare to just babysitting twice a month so the couple can go on a date) can ease that stressful time.

I have a successful marriage (11 years, doing great) and we did it without family support. And it was incredibly hard. I think the reason we have made it thus far is that we were older when we married, so the finance stuff wasn't as much of an issue. But having a baby with no family support at all, even when you are financially stable, is HARD. I was stunned by how difficult it was. I'm not surprised that lack of family support winds up being a factor in a lot of marital breakups, especially if you are under 30 and not settled in careers and don't have the means to outsource anything.

The biggest myth is that half of all marriages end in divorce. Not even close.

Leading cause of divorce, marriage!

This survey is junk.

Surgeons have the lowest divorce rate? Lower than clergy? I don't think so.

Are the rates measuring percent of people per total population or percent of people married in first marriages over 10 years compared to percent of people divorced from first marriages over 10 years?

US statistics say only half of adults in the US live with a spouse as well, so something is off with the 4% number.

Anonymous wrote:“Just 4% of couples divorce after 10 years of marriage.“

That stat is very surprising reading this forum and also all the “gray divorces” yiu hear about at empty nest time.

The ones in our neighborhood/school/community were after 15-25 years.

Looking online it seems to be much higher on other pages. 25% is what a lot of other websites say. I wonder why there is such a discrepancy,

These aren't reasons reasons, they are outcomes.

The title is what is interesting: lack of family support is the leading cause cited in 43% of marriages. I guess that means that the in-laws disapprove? Maybe the in-laws disapproving is less the causal factor and a sign that the partner really is bad for you. But who knows.

Anonymous wrote:“Just 4% of couples divorce after 10 years of marriage.“

That stat is very surprising reading this forum and also all the “gray divorces” yiu hear about at empty nest time.

The ones in our neighborhood/school/community were after 15-25 years.

Around 10 years is the magic number based on my own experience and others I know

“Just 4% of couples divorce after 10 years of marriage.“

That stat is very surprising reading this forum and also all the “gray divorces” yiu hear about at empty nest time.

The ones in our neighborhood/school/community were after 15-25 years.

"Forbes Advisor commissioned a survey of 1,000 Americans who are divorced or who are in the process of divorcing to discover why marriages fail. Based on this data, here are some of the most likely reasons marriages come to an end."


https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/divorce/common-causes-divorce/


"Third Marriages Have the Highest Divorce Rate—73%
Many people accept it as fact that half of all marriages end in divorce, but as mentioned above, this applies only to first marriages. Those who wed multiple times face a far higher rate of divorce. In fact, 67% of second marriages end, and 73% of third marriages are dissolved."

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/divorce/divorce-statistics/

"a total of 6% of divorced couples get remarried to each other. When this occurs, the odds of future success are high. A full 72% of reunited couples remain married after reuniting"

"Couples who have friends who divorce have a 75% increase in the risk of their own marriage ending. Even couples with two degrees of separation from divorce still have a 33% greater risk."

"In some countries, it is not possible to divorce at all. Neither The Republic of the Philippines nor Vatican City permit divorce"