Anonymous
Post 12/06/2023 07:36     Subject: Re:A short runner and pace question...

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you are doing all of the right things. Taking two minutes off in six months (if I followed your post correctly) is an accomplishment so be proud of that.

I got faster following the plan in a running book years ago, maybe Jeff Galloway's book on running? But it was basically the methods you are already doing.

I know this will be an unpopular comment, but does your time improve if your weight changes? Please know I ask this as a person of similar size.


The book I used was The Runners Handbook by Bob Glover.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2023 07:04     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Anonymous wrote:Getting faster is more about form.


No, it's not. Or, it's not much about form - running is not a technical sport in the way swimming is.

OP, you need intervals to get faster. Shorter bursts of faster than is comfortable running. Your stride length will adjust, but you've got to practice running faster for shorter distances if you want to get faster at longer distances.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 12:04     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Anonymous wrote:Are you the same person who asked about hearing at a party? Not everything is about height! Give it up!


Lol no....

Someone up top said to lengthen my stride and a few of the newer posters said to shorten it...Maybe I will hire a running coach before the spring season.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 22:26     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Are you the same person who asked about hearing at a party? Not everything is about height! Give it up!
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 22:12     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Anonymous wrote:Try shortening you stride.


This. It's counterintuitive, but the shorter the stride, the faster you propel yourself along.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 22:04     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Try shortening you stride.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 22:00     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Anonymous wrote:How many miles are you running a week and are you varying your pace based on the run you are doing? Most runs should be at an easy pace so you can really push yourself on the run that are meant yo be faster. Do you run with others? I got faster by running with faster people.

Your height also isn’t an issue. I know a lot of insanely fast women who are shorter than you.


Kipchoge is only 5'6" and I've heard he's pretty fast...
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 20:43     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

How many miles are you running a week and are you varying your pace based on the run you are doing? Most runs should be at an easy pace so you can really push yourself on the run that are meant yo be faster. Do you run with others? I got faster by running with faster people.

Your height also isn’t an issue. I know a lot of insanely fast women who are shorter than you.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 18:26     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Anonymous wrote:I am shorter (5'2 and 125 pounds) and have been running for a few years. I'm trying to pick up my pace and keep my heart rate low. I do intervals, I do tempos, long runs, and I strength train. I am very consistent 3-4x a week. I trained for a 10k this fall since 5-6k was my limit in the spring. Wanted to benchmark myself so today I did a 5k in 34 minutes, but my heart rate was 165 average. The terrain was flat. In spring I did 5k similar terrain in 36 minutes but my heart rate was average 154. So today was really hard and I only shaved 2 minutes off my time. My PR is 32 minutes for 5k.

I feel like nothing I do will get me to be a faster runner. I know I love the sport and have so much fun with it, but it feels like my hard work isn't paying off.

Any thoughts?


Like others have said, you need to do speedwork to get fast. On the heart rate, a 5km should be run at near maximal heart rate. It's an unpleasant distance to run fast.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 16:48     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

You only get faster through speed work. Why do you care about your HR? That is very weird. If you work out harder, your heart rate goes up. That is expected. When you gain fitness and endurance, your heart rate won’t be as high.

I’m 5’2 and my weight has fluctuated between 115 and 125 throughout my life. I’ve run 5 marathons, a few half marathons, and numerous 10Ks. I’ve run a 3:40 marathon. I had to run mile repeats on the track to be able to run faster.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 16:38     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Why do you need to keep your HR down?

I used to be faster and am 5'2" 120ish but my HR would be high if I was running fast. I've done a half marathon in 1:57 and lots of shorter runs much faster. My HR would be anywhere from 150-180ish which is normal for me. Speed work on the tract really helped get faster

I'm much slower these days but I'm decades older and haven't been running as much.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 15:22     Subject: Re:A short runner and pace question...

If you're serious about increasing your pace, go to a running coach. I'm built like you. 5'1", about 120#. My pace improved very slightly when I weighed 10# less, but not in a meaningful way. Like maybe a 15-20 second reduction in my mile time? I used to see this woman who was even shorter blast past me on the trail every day and I finally asked how she did it. She had a coach who helped her with form and making her strides more efficient. I did the same and had a minute off my mile time within a few months because my strides got longer. I also did plyometrics a couple of times a week to help me "launch" into my strides more effectively. Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 13:33     Subject: Re:A short runner and pace question...

It sounds like you are doing all of the right things. Taking two minutes off in six months (if I followed your post correctly) is an accomplishment so be proud of that.

I got faster following the plan in a running book years ago, maybe Jeff Galloway's book on running? But it was basically the methods you are already doing.

I know this will be an unpopular comment, but does your time improve if your weight changes? Please know I ask this as a person of similar size.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 12:48     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

Getting faster is more about form.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 12:46     Subject: A short runner and pace question...

I am shorter (5'2 and 125 pounds) and have been running for a few years. I'm trying to pick up my pace and keep my heart rate low. I do intervals, I do tempos, long runs, and I strength train. I am very consistent 3-4x a week. I trained for a 10k this fall since 5-6k was my limit in the spring. Wanted to benchmark myself so today I did a 5k in 34 minutes, but my heart rate was 165 average. The terrain was flat. In spring I did 5k similar terrain in 36 minutes but my heart rate was average 154. So today was really hard and I only shaved 2 minutes off my time. My PR is 32 minutes for 5k.

I feel like nothing I do will get me to be a faster runner. I know I love the sport and have so much fun with it, but it feels like my hard work isn't paying off.

Any thoughts?