Is the lack of ranking or GPA just a way to preserve special treatment away from the hoi polloi? Eliminating AP classes, too. If an admissions office can’t make an apples to apples comparison to top public students they can’t find the public student superior…

Agree. Our private also does not rank or calculate GPAs.

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Anonymous wrote:Question to ponder: if a student van be top 30% at an elite prep school, what sort of gpa and rank (by decide, say) would they probably achieve at your local public? Or certain middle of the road publics?

The higher gpa and rank from the public may have better admission results, or at least no worse. Just a guess, of course.

My daughter goes to an “elite” boarding school and they don’t rank students and they don’t submit GPAs to colleges.

Ummm what? What school is this and what colleges are they applying to?

Many private schools too

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Anonymous wrote:Question to ponder: if a student van be top 30% at an elite prep school, what sort of gpa and rank (by decide, say) would they probably achieve at your local public? Or certain middle of the road publics?

The higher gpa and rank from the public may have better admission results, or at least no worse. Just a guess, of course.

My daughter goes to an “elite” boarding school and they don’t rank students and they don’t submit GPAs to colleges.

Ummm what? What school is this and what colleges are they applying to?

Anonymous wrote:Question to ponder: if a student van be top 30% at an elite prep school, what sort of gpa and rank (by decide, say) would they probably achieve at your local public? Or certain middle of the road publics?

The higher gpa and rank from the public may have better admission results, or at least no worse. Just a guess, of course.

My daughter goes to an “elite” boarding school and they don’t rank students and they don’t submit GPAs to colleges.

Question to ponder: if a student van be top 30% at an elite prep school, what sort of gpa and rank (by decide, say) would they probably achieve at your local public? Or certain middle of the road publics?

The higher gpa and rank from the public may have better admission results, or at least no worse. Just a guess, of course.

Spence, Brearley, Deerfield

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Anonymous wrote:Of course they still matter, but the student must be at the top academic level. Middle of the road will not have the same advantage.

Top 30-40% of those classes used to have great outcomes though. Not sure about now.

Yeah, I attended one of the boarding schools the PP listed. In my class (early 90s) BU was the universal safety added to everyone’s list by the college office. There are schools on last year’s IG that would have meant a PG year or gap year back in the 90s. And way fewer kids to Harvard and Yale.

It's much harder for the smart kids with no hooks. Not over for the well-connected. For example, last year 3 kids got into a highly selective Ivy. All 3 kids had lower scores than the kids who were rejected. Why? 2 of the kids had parents on the board, the 3rd was legacy with other connections. That doesn't mean the smarter kids won't have an okay outcome somewhere else.

Anonymous wrote:Of course they still matter, but the student must be at the top academic level. Middle of the road will not have the same advantage.

Top 30-40% of those classes used to have great outcomes though. Not sure about now.

Of course they still matter, but the student must be at the top academic level. Middle of the road will not have the same advantage.

Definitely

Definitely not over. Just look to the admitted students Instagrams for Deerfield, Choate, Loomis, etc from last year. And that’s just what I’m familiar with. I’m sure there are NYC and Boston schools with even better results.

Over….
Sadly for us.

I'm interested in these top private day schools and boarding schools that have routinely sent 25%+ of their kids to tip top colleges.

Is that over now?

In so many ways it feels more problematic than legacy and definatly more problematic than affirmative action.