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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think MAP tests are that accurate either. There is a lot of random drop in scores and then the students are placed in a lower reading group. My kid scored 97th in 3rd grade but somehow messed up in the fall of 4th went down to 85th. I don’t think it indicates that his comprehension ability deteriorated. To me it seems he probably rushed on the test or something. But the school uses his score to place him in the lower reading group. How is that an accurate assessment of his abilities?

They are more accurate than other tests. Truly gifted/advanced kids never score under 99%. Smart kids scores will range high 80s to mid to high 90s.

What is your source for this? If "truly gifted kids" have not been exposed to the material then how do you know they will score in the 99th percentile?

I’m not the person who posted this, but I can attest that my own kids never went below 98th especially my 3rd grade one (still a long way to prove this point). No I never intentionally exposed him to the advanced materials, because I can’t afford him being even more bored at school. They are just quick to pick up the concept if they see or read it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think MAP tests are that accurate either. There is a lot of random drop in scores and then the students are placed in a lower reading group. My kid scored 97th in 3rd grade but somehow messed up in the fall of 4th went down to 85th. I don’t think it indicates that his comprehension ability deteriorated. To me it seems he probably rushed on the test or something. But the school uses his score to place him in the lower reading group. How is that an accurate assessment of his abilities?

They are more accurate than other tests. Truly gifted/advanced kids never score under 99%. Smart kids scores will range high 80s to mid to high 90s.

What is your source for this? If "truly gifted kids" have not been exposed to the material then how do you know they will score in the 99th percentile?

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Anonymous wrote:I reached out to the state to ask when we should receive them. Below is what they replied -- it is so frustrating that MCPS can't even comply with the deadlines that MSDE sets for getting us the scores. MCPS has had all the reports since the end of July; they have had paper copies since mid-September; and they were required to mail them by mid-October. Yet it's now mid-November and we still haven't received anything (at least from my school).

MSDA response:
"The MISA individual student reports (ISRs) were accessible to the districts electronically on June 20th, while the ELA and mathematics ISRs were available electronically to the districts beginning on July 28th. Paper copies of ISRs for MISA, ELA, and mathematics were delivered directly to schools in mid-September. Schools have 30 school days to share the reports with parents/guardians after the delivery to the districts."

Yes we know. You reach out to the state everytime.

That's they only way to get MCPS to actually mail the results, apparently.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think MAP tests are that accurate either. There is a lot of random drop in scores and then the students are placed in a lower reading group. My kid scored 97th in 3rd grade but somehow messed up in the fall of 4th went down to 85th. I don’t think it indicates that his comprehension ability deteriorated. To me it seems he probably rushed on the test or something. But the school uses his score to place him in the lower reading group. How is that an accurate assessment of his abilities?

They are more accurate than other tests. Truly gifted/advanced kids never score under 99%. Smart kids scores will range high 80s to mid to high 90s.

Anonymous wrote:I reached out to the state to ask when we should receive them. Below is what they replied -- it is so frustrating that MCPS can't even comply with the deadlines that MSDE sets for getting us the scores. MCPS has had all the reports since the end of July; they have had paper copies since mid-September; and they were required to mail them by mid-October. Yet it's now mid-November and we still haven't received anything (at least from my school).

MSDA response:
"The MISA individual student reports (ISRs) were accessible to the districts electronically on June 20th, while the ELA and mathematics ISRs were available electronically to the districts beginning on July 28th. Paper copies of ISRs for MISA, ELA, and mathematics were delivered directly to schools in mid-September. Schools have 30 school days to share the reports with parents/guardians after the delivery to the districts."

Yes we know. You reach out to the state everytime.

I reached out to the state to ask when we should receive them. Below is what they replied -- it is so frustrating that MCPS can't even comply with the deadlines that MSDE sets for getting us the scores. MCPS has had all the reports since the end of July; they have had paper copies since mid-September; and they were required to mail them by mid-October. Yet it's now mid-November and we still haven't received anything (at least from my school).

MSDA response:
"The MISA individual student reports (ISRs) were accessible to the districts electronically on June 20th, while the ELA and mathematics ISRs were available electronically to the districts beginning on July 28th. Paper copies of ISRs for MISA, ELA, and mathematics were delivered directly to schools in mid-September. Schools have 30 school days to share the reports with parents/guardians after the delivery to the districts."

Longtime MCPS educator here. MCAP is the least helpful assessment for a classroom teacher. It's a huge waste of time and takes days away from providing students with actual instruction. I do love MAP and I use the data but also recognize that it's just one data point. As educators, we have to triangulate data points to create our student's learner profile. I like to look at my students holistically - how do they perform on formative assessments in the classroom? What are their strengths/weaknesses when I meet with them in group? I don't like placing all my eggs in one testing basket so to speak.
I've done a lot of work with my staff around looking at a variety of data points to better differentiate their instruction. MCAP just really isn't very helpful when you get the results six months later. Not to mention that it would give many adults a run for their money.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think MAP tests are that accurate either. There is a lot of random drop in scores and then the students are placed in a lower reading group. My kid scored 97th in 3rd grade but somehow messed up in the fall of 4th went down to 85th. I don’t think it indicates that his comprehension ability deteriorated. To me it seems he probably rushed on the test or something. But the school uses his score to place him in the lower reading group. How is that an accurate assessment of his abilities?

I agree with this completely. My kids can go from 98th to 80th then back up then down. It all depends on how focused they are that day. Also, I believe some kids are excellent standardized tests takers and others are not. Placement should also be based on performance on class assignments and tests over a course of many months. To me, that’s more accurate.

I don’t think MAP tests are that accurate either. There is a lot of random drop in scores and then the students are placed in a lower reading group. My kid scored 97th in 3rd grade but somehow messed up in the fall of 4th went down to 85th. I don’t think it indicates that his comprehension ability deteriorated. To me it seems he probably rushed on the test or something. But the school uses his score to place him in the lower reading group. How is that an accurate assessment of his abilities?

Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of trouble caring about this test, or PARCC, or anything else. Everything in MCPS elementary rises and falls on the MAP. Nothing else matters - including class performance, until you need those As at the beginning of 5th grade for the MS magnets.

I'd rather they use map than some equity obsessed loon that won't even hold reading groups.

I have a lot of trouble caring about this test, or PARCC, or anything else. Everything in MCPS elementary rises and falls on the MAP. Nothing else matters - including class performance, until you need those As at the beginning of 5th grade for the MS magnets.

Got ours today for my current 4th graders. Level 3 performance in both reading and math. He was very close to level 4 in math.

Mailing dates are school-specific.

Anonymous wrote:FYI.. Got an email from our ES that the MCAP scores have been mailed and we should expect them in a day or so.

Isn't MCAP that new test the sate made up to replace PARC that the majority of students in the state fail because they haven't tested or debugged it?

FYI.. Got an email from our ES that the MCAP scores have been mailed and we should expect them in a day or so.