Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And of course, all the Jews burn in the Rapture because they are not worthy to be in the kingdom of god for their betrayal.

good times.

And no one calls out this right wing anti-semitism.

In all fairness, the Evangelicals believe all non-believers, and even some adherents to Christian denominations, will also burn.

True. The "megachurch" type Christian belief system is pretty abhorrent when you peel away the vapid feel good sermons and high production value music.

In what way?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And of course, all the Jews burn in the Rapture because they are not worthy to be in the kingdom of god for their betrayal.

good times.

And no one calls out this right wing anti-semitism.

In all fairness, the Evangelicals believe all non-believers, and even some adherents to Christian denominations, will also burn.

True. The "megachurch" type Christian belief system is pretty abhorrent when you peel away the vapid feel good sermons and high production value music.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jews have to control the historical land of Israel in order for Jesus to return to earth, and then Jesus will destroy the Jews along with any other non-believers.

It’s basically a story of a global holocaust of non-Christians. Good times!

Are the Jews aware of this plan?

I’m sure they are. I’m sure they don’t care either since they don’t believe Jesus is the Messiah and isn’t descending on a cloud to smite them.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thank you. Is this what’s in the book of revelation verbatim ? Or is this how they interpret it?

You know I’ve tried to wade through Revelations and I just can’t. But that is what is accepted as truth among fundies and evangelicals (many of whom haven’t read the Bible at all). The Jewish people have to be there for the End Times.

The other pillar of this is a passage you will be familiar with, depending on which version of the Bible you grew up with: Genesis 1:26, which basically says that humans are to have dominion over the earth. In the ‘vangie reading, this is taken to mean that we can do whatever we want and it has led to the belief that to bring about the end times, we first have to destroy the earth, which is why they oppose clean air, water, soil, and why they don’t care if every species on the planet except us and the food we need to grow goes extinct.

Christians like that would be a thousand million times happier and better people if they understood what Jesus meant when he said “the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.” It’s here and you can have it if we’re kind and caring. That’s it. That’s what Jesus wanted. Make Heaven happen on earth.

Hmm. I'm a Christian and a zionist but I don't consider the beliefs as a related whole or distinct from garden variety zionism.

Anonymous wrote:Jews have to control the historical land of Israel in order for Jesus to return to earth, and then Jesus will destroy the Jews along with any other non-believers.

It’s basically a story of a global holocaust of non-Christians. Good times!

Are the Jews aware of this plan?

Can someone please get the CITE for this? From Bible or wherever?

I have heard something similar too -- I am Jewish and I have had Christian friends tell me that they get "extra" points if they convert a Jew. I don't get that either.

Anonymous wrote:And of course, all the Jews burn in the Rapture because they are not worthy to be in the kingdom of god for their betrayal.

good times.

And no one calls out this right wing anti-semitism.

In all fairness, the Evangelicals believe all non-believers, and even some adherents to Christian denominations, will also burn.

Anonymous wrote:And of course, all the Jews burn in the Rapture because they are not worthy to be in the kingdom of god for their betrayal.

good times.

And no one calls out this right wing anti-semitism.

No, in fact Trump is embracing it and many Jews support him for that. Go figure.

And of course, all the Jews burn in the Rapture because they are not worthy to be in the kingdom of god for their betrayal.

good times.

And no one calls out this right wing anti-semitism.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jews have to control the historical land of Israel in order for Jesus to return to earth, and then Jesus will destroy the Jews along with any other non-believers.

It’s basically a story of a global holocaust of non-Christians. Good times!

+1 well summarized. It’s the only reason evangelical Christians are at all interested in what goes on in Israel.

As far as I can tell, this is correct. My evangelical Christian relatives seem to believe this. They go on at length about their love for Israel and the Jewish people but also try to convert Jewish people (including other sides of my family) at all times. I get a lot of questions about whether or not I have found way to "witness" to Jewish relatives about Jesus. This makes for odd family gatherings every few years.

Op here. Thank you. Is this what’s in the book of revelation verbatim ? Or is this how they interpret it?

Anonymous wrote:Jews have to control the historical land of Israel in order for Jesus to return to earth, and then Jesus will destroy the Jews along with any other non-believers.

It’s basically a story of a global holocaust of non-Christians. Good times!

+1 well summarized. It’s the only reason evangelical Christians are at all interested in what goes on in Israel.

Jews have to control the historical land of Israel in order for Jesus to return to earth, and then Jesus will destroy the Jews along with any other non-believers.

It’s basically a story of a global holocaust of non-Christians. Good times!

I’m an Arab American Christian and don’t understand the logic behind Christian Zionism. Is it based on the book of revelation - which most Catholic & Orthodox Christians believe it’s more symbolic in nature but Evangelicals seem to interpret it more concretely ?

Is it true that Evangelicals are justifying the killing of thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza because Christ’s second coming can only happen if all the Jews come back to Israel?

I’m asking a genuine question as I’m perplexed about all the support Israel gets from Evangelicals Christians in the US, which I have not seen from Christians in any other country.