Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 09:55     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A person trained only by watching YouTube videos, and equipped with $100 worth of Harbor Freight tools and some Bondo, could get that ready for paint in an afternoon.

No sympathy for that owner’s plight. That is a textbook example of an easy, fix-it-yourself repair. We are becoming a nation of highly educated people who can’t do sh*t.




It’s not easy because it might require a panel replacement if the dent is unfixable. That’s the problem so many people who buy niche brands like rivians, Lucids, etc. completely ignore - the parts supply chains for those extremely rare cars don’t exist, so when S breaks (which they inevitably will) a repair goes from a few thousand dollars to fix to a $40k+ fix. This example in the link isn’t unique either. Other Rivian owners who got into a fender bender and needed the bumper now replaced also report getting quotes for over $30k to fix it.

It’s absolutely absurd. It’s the risk dumb buyers take though when they wanna be contrarian by buying a small niche EV that isn’t Tesla because hurr durr durr ElOn MuSK BAd!!!

Have fun dumping another 40 grand into your money pit for what should be a relatively minor fix because there are supply chains that exist for parts.


Elon Musk is pretty terrible.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 12:34     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

And people wonder why car insurance is getting so expensive.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2023 15:21     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

9+ month wait to get a Tesla into a repair shop.

Tesla stinks too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/17x0ne4/9_month_wait_just_so_that_i_can_get_an_estimate/
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2023 16:48     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A person trained only by watching YouTube videos, and equipped with $100 worth of Harbor Freight tools and some Bondo, could get that ready for paint in an afternoon.

No sympathy for that owner’s plight. That is a textbook example of an easy, fix-it-yourself repair. We are becoming a nation of highly educated people who can’t do sh*t.




It’s not easy because it might require a panel replacement if the dent is unfixable. That’s the problem so many people who buy niche brands like rivians, Lucids, etc. completely ignore - the parts supply chains for those extremely rare cars don’t exist, so when S breaks (which they inevitably will) a repair goes from a few thousand dollars to fix to a $40k+ fix. This example in the link isn’t unique either. Other Rivian owners who got into a fender bender and needed the bumper now replaced also report getting quotes for over $30k to fix it.

It’s absolutely absurd. It’s the risk dumb buyers take though when they wanna be contrarian by buying a small niche EV that isn’t Tesla because hurr durr durr ElOn MuSK BAd!!!

Have fun dumping another 40 grand into your money pit for what should be a relatively minor fix because there are supply chains that exist for parts.



It's not the supply issue, it's the panel itself. Look at how large large the rear the rear quarter panel is- covers the whole side of the rear bed, goes up the C pillar and forms the roof. Compare that to any other truck and the panel barely wraps around the side at all because manufactures know the part needs to be easily replaceable because it is the most likely place to get a severe dent
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2023 16:43     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

Anonymous wrote:A person trained only by watching YouTube videos, and equipped with $100 worth of Harbor Freight tools and some Bondo, could get that ready for paint in an afternoon.

No sympathy for that owner’s plight. That is a textbook example of an easy, fix-it-yourself repair. We are becoming a nation of highly educated people who can’t do sh*t.



Thedrive ran the same story

https://www.thedrive.com/news/41000-rivian-fender-bender-actually-just-needed-paintless-dent-removal

the fix was still a few thousand
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2023 16:41     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A person trained only by watching YouTube videos, and equipped with $100 worth of Harbor Freight tools and some Bondo, could get that ready for paint in an afternoon.

No sympathy for that owner’s plight. That is a textbook example of an easy, fix-it-yourself repair. We are becoming a nation of highly educated people who can’t do sh*t.




It’s not easy because it might require a panel replacement if the dent is unfixable. That’s the problem so many people who buy niche brands like rivians, Lucids, etc. completely ignore - the parts supply chains for those extremely rare cars don’t exist, so when S breaks (which they inevitably will) a repair goes from a few thousand dollars to fix to a $40k+ fix. This example in the link isn’t unique either. Other Rivian owners who got into a fender bender and needed the bumper now replaced also report getting quotes for over $30k to fix it.

It’s absolutely absurd. It’s the risk dumb buyers take though when they wanna be contrarian by buying a small niche EV that isn’t Tesla because hurr durr durr ElOn MuSK BAd!!!

Have fun dumping another 40 grand into your money pit for what should be a relatively minor fix because there are supply chains that exist for parts.


It’s an aluminum sheet metal fender, not a nuclear reactor.

Get a slide hammer, a drill, some sheet metal screws, drill some holes, put the screws in them, and use the slide hammer to pull that dent out. Then throw some body filler on it, trowel it to profile, let it cure, and grind/sand it to final profile.

This stuff ain’t rocket science. People used to know how to do this themselves.

Anonymous
Post 11/14/2023 11:23     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

Anonymous wrote:A person trained only by watching YouTube videos, and equipped with $100 worth of Harbor Freight tools and some Bondo, could get that ready for paint in an afternoon.

No sympathy for that owner’s plight. That is a textbook example of an easy, fix-it-yourself repair. We are becoming a nation of highly educated people who can’t do sh*t.




It’s not easy because it might require a panel replacement if the dent is unfixable. That’s the problem so many people who buy niche brands like rivians, Lucids, etc. completely ignore - the parts supply chains for those extremely rare cars don’t exist, so when S breaks (which they inevitably will) a repair goes from a few thousand dollars to fix to a $40k+ fix. This example in the link isn’t unique either. Other Rivian owners who got into a fender bender and needed the bumper now replaced also report getting quotes for over $30k to fix it.

It’s absolutely absurd. It’s the risk dumb buyers take though when they wanna be contrarian by buying a small niche EV that isn’t Tesla because hurr durr durr ElOn MuSK BAd!!!

Have fun dumping another 40 grand into your money pit for what should be a relatively minor fix because there are supply chains that exist for parts.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2023 09:08     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

A person trained only by watching YouTube videos, and equipped with $100 worth of Harbor Freight tools and some Bondo, could get that ready for paint in an afternoon.

No sympathy for that owner’s plight. That is a textbook example of an easy, fix-it-yourself repair. We are becoming a nation of highly educated people who can’t do sh*t.

Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 21:46     Subject: exhibit A for why niche brands suck so bad

Imagine getting a small dent like this guy and needing to replace the panel......for $32,000 like the owners in this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivian/comments/17s8b52/hit_and_run_damage/


Rivian, lucid, polestar, etc. etc. All these niche brands suck. Things inevitably break or get damaged, then your SOL because parts are impossible to source, there are no after market substitutes, and and everything is 10x more expensive.


You have to be really dense to buy niche cars with no reliable parts supply chains.