Anonymous wrote:Ok, do you all remember Amy Coney Barrett’s note about the “domestic supply of infants” in her rationale of why Roe should be overturned?? Well, looks like there is more effort underfoot to increase this “domestic supply” as international adoptions are more restricted and fewer single moms in America put their kids up for adoption.

This is an ongoing ploy for foster parents to steal kids from biological parents who follow the full plan to get their kids back. Potential parents are going into the foster system deliberately to try to work the system to keep their foster infants. This is horrific.

https://www.propublica.org/article/foster-care-intervention-adoption-colorado

This wouldn't increase the domestic supply of infants. Whether the infant is raised by birth parents or adopted parents, it is still one infant. It doesn't multiply and become two infants when adopted. So ABCs comments have nothing to do with the adoption issues you are presenting.

You guys are nuts. This is an issue facing many, many nations. It isn't about religion or Evangelicals. It's about resources any nation needs, no different from gas or food.

China's population freakout: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/international/4299666-chinas-dystopian-population-goals-forced-procreation-and-industrialized-births/amp/

Korea: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp%3fnewsIdx=362679

Europe: https://www.ft.com/content/c11ef0af-717b-4266-817d-533426363aa7

Even NPR can discuss this issue from a practical standpoint and without being convinced it's a scheme by religious fantatics: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2011/11/03/141943008/when-governments-pay-people-to-have-babies


Fertility rates are a thing that are closely tracked for economic and security reasons. On DCUM, if you bring this up, you get a mixture of denial that the US has declining fertility, accusations of racism that have no basis since the color of the baby is immaterial to the overall rate, and accusations that this is all a scheme by Evangelicals. You all need to study up on this topic if you insist on talking about it. I wrote my masters thesis on it like 15 years ago; it's an actual issue that many, many countries have enacted policies to address. And yes, as much as people don't want to admit it, making abortion illegal IS one possible approach to increasing birth. Just like when China mandated abortions under the one child policy.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m getting to the point where I don’t see infant adoption as something that should be allowed. The baby stealing is horrific.

It's always been evil and surrogacy is equally as evil.

Infant adoption is “evil,” but killing the baby in utero is the moral high ground? That is some amazingly twisted thinking.

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This is pretty sick.

You know what’s really sick? This evangelical military couple with a passel of sons who stole an Afghan baby whose parents were killed in the war.
https://apnews.com/article/afghan-baby-us-mar...4b288a0a8415735e24ab

Is there an update on this case? Has the child been returned to the Afghani couple?

I think no, I lost track but there’s a thread on it here https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1089440.page

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This is pretty sick.

You know what’s really sick? This evangelical military couple with a passel of sons who stole an Afghan baby whose parents were killed in the war.
https://apnews.com/article/afghan-baby-us-mar...4b288a0a8415735e24ab

Is there an update on this case? Has the child been returned to the Afghani couple?

There are plenty of older kids available.

She's crazy if she thinks women are going to give up their infants, even if unwanted. They will either try to have illegal abortions, or keep the babies as long as they can.

Will end up with a lot of traumatized older kids who need adoption after parents have too many issues and lose custody.

But people who believe in "the rapture" will pretty much believe anything.

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The obsession with getting a "healthy infant" at all costs confounds me. I definitely believe it's part of the forced-birth ideology. There are a lot of women out there praying nightly that some 15 year old white girl who never drank or did drugs gets pregnant in red state far from a blue state, just so she can have her perfect newborn.

This is pretty sick.

You know what’s really sick? This evangelical military couple with a passel of sons who stole an Afghan baby whose parents were killed in the war.
https://apnews.com/article/afghan-baby-us-marine-custody-battle-b157557538b84b288a0a8415735e24ab

Evangelicals murder, steal, and lie all in the name of religion while ignoring the Ten Commandments.

They worship the creed.

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Anonymous wrote:

The obsession with getting a "healthy infant" at all costs confounds me. I definitely believe it's part of the forced-birth ideology. There are a lot of women out there praying nightly that some 15 year old white girl who never drank or did drugs gets pregnant in red state far from a blue state, just so she can have her perfect newborn.

This is pretty sick.

You know what’s really sick? This evangelical military couple with a passel of sons who stole an Afghan baby whose parents were killed in the war.
https://apnews.com/article/afghan-baby-us-marine-custody-battle-b157557538b84b288a0a8415735e24ab

Evangelicals murder, steal, and lie all in the name of religion while ignoring the Ten Commandments.

Anonymous wrote:

The obsession with getting a "healthy infant" at all costs confounds me. I definitely believe it's part of the forced-birth ideology. There are a lot of women out there praying nightly that some 15 year old white girl who never drank or did drugs gets pregnant in red state far from a blue state, just so she can have her perfect newborn.

This is pretty sick.

You know what’s really sick? This evangelical military couple with a passel of sons who stole an Afghan baby whose parents were killed in the war.
https://apnews.com/article/afghan-baby-us-marine-custody-battle-b157557538b84b288a0a8415735e24ab

The obsession with getting a "healthy infant" at all costs confounds me. I definitely believe it's part of the forced-birth ideology. There are a lot of women out there praying nightly that some 15 year old white girl who never drank or did drugs gets pregnant in red state far from a blue state, just so she can have her perfect newborn.

This is pretty sick.

The obsession with getting a "healthy infant" at all costs confounds me. I definitely believe it's part of the forced-birth ideology. There are a lot of women out there praying nightly that some 15 year old white girl who never drank or did drugs gets pregnant in red state far from a blue state, just so she can have her perfect newborn.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, do you all remember Amy Coney Barrett’s note about the “domestic supply of infants” in her rationale of why Roe should be overturned?? Well, looks like there is more effort underfoot to increase this “domestic supply” as international adoptions are more restricted and fewer single moms in America put their kids up for adoption.

This is an ongoing ploy for foster parents to steal kids from biological parents who follow the full plan to get their kids back. Potential parents are going into the foster system deliberately to try to work the system to keep their foster infants. This is horrific.

https://www.propublica.org/article/foster-care-intervention-adoption-colorado

Those kids who died when their adoptive moms drove them off a cliff were stolen out of the foster system. https://theappeal.org/before-childrens-grisly-deaths-a-family-fought-for-them-and-lost/

Anonymous wrote:I’m getting to the point where I don’t see infant adoption as something that should be allowed. The baby stealing is horrific.

It's always been evil and surrogacy is equally as evil.

I’m getting to the point where I don’t see infant adoption as something that should be allowed. The baby stealing is horrific.

Ok, do you all remember Amy Coney Barrett’s note about the “domestic supply of infants” in her rationale of why Roe should be overturned?? Well, looks like there is more effort underfoot to increase this “domestic supply” as international adoptions are more restricted and fewer single moms in America put their kids up for adoption.

This is an ongoing ploy for foster parents to steal kids from biological parents who follow the full plan to get their kids back. Potential parents are going into the foster system deliberately to try to work the system to keep their foster infants. This is horrific.

https://www.propublica.org/article/foster-care-intervention-adoption-colorado