Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea. BUT I will say my kid missed the cut off and I asked him to be placed in pre-algebra anyway. He was placed and his grade for Q1 is 98% and it's his favorite class. So, the cut offs aren't the best predicators for success in the class IMO.

There isn't much difference between Math 6 and Pre-Alg 6-7-8. The big difference happens in 7th grade, when the Pre-Alg 6-7-8 kids move to Intensified Algebra in 7th grade -- which is a high school credit class. In my experience, a lot of the parents who pushed their kids into Pre-Alg 6-7-8 in 6th grade were the same parents who ended up hiring math tutors in 7th grade. APS has the score cutoffs for a reason.

6-7-8 has more pre-Geometry.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea. BUT I will say my kid missed the cut off and I asked him to be placed in pre-algebra anyway. He was placed and his grade for Q1 is 98% and it's his favorite class. So, the cut offs aren't the best predicators for success in the class IMO.

There isn't much difference between Math 6 and Pre-Alg 6-7-8. The big difference happens in 7th grade, when the Pre-Alg 6-7-8 kids move to Intensified Algebra in 7th grade -- which is a high school credit class. In my experience, a lot of the parents who pushed their kids into Pre-Alg 6-7-8 in 6th grade were the same parents who ended up hiring math tutors in 7th grade. APS has the score cutoffs for a reason.

My 8th grader is in Alg 1 intensified and it isn’t him - he understands the material when I teach it but doesn’t when he relies on the teaching methods at school. I suspect the tutors are for parents who don’t have the time or knowledge to tutor themselves. If I couldn’t teach it, he would need a tutor because the teacher isn’t great.

Which middle school?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea. BUT I will say my kid missed the cut off and I asked him to be placed in pre-algebra anyway. He was placed and his grade for Q1 is 98% and it's his favorite class. So, the cut offs aren't the best predicators for success in the class IMO.

There isn't much difference between Math 6 and Pre-Alg 6-7-8. The big difference happens in 7th grade, when the Pre-Alg 6-7-8 kids move to Intensified Algebra in 7th grade -- which is a high school credit class. In my experience, a lot of the parents who pushed their kids into Pre-Alg 6-7-8 in 6th grade were the same parents who ended up hiring math tutors in 7th grade. APS has the score cutoffs for a reason.

My 8th grader is in Alg 1 intensified and it isn’t him - he understands the material when I teach it but doesn’t when he relies on the teaching methods at school. I suspect the tutors are for parents who don’t have the time or knowledge to tutor themselves. If I couldn’t teach it, he would need a tutor because the teacher isn’t great.

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea. BUT I will say my kid missed the cut off and I asked him to be placed in pre-algebra anyway. He was placed and his grade for Q1 is 98% and it's his favorite class. So, the cut offs aren't the best predicators for success in the class IMO.

There isn't much difference between Math 6 and Pre-Alg 6-7-8. The big difference happens in 7th grade, when the Pre-Alg 6-7-8 kids move to Intensified Algebra in 7th grade -- which is a high school credit class. In my experience, a lot of the parents who pushed their kids into Pre-Alg 6-7-8 in 6th grade were the same parents who ended up hiring math tutors in 7th grade. APS has the score cutoffs for a reason.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some other districts in USA use 230 for Prealgebra readiness (which IMO is too low for advanced learners who expect to get a high A in math classes. I'd recommend 240-250 for Fall of year before Prealgebra)

But the MAP is a poor test for this purpose so correlations are weak.

Over in FCPS, 91%ile in 6th grade is used for Algebra in 7th

I don't know that you can even get a 250 in the fall of 5th grade. The charts I looked at topped out at 244 as the top score. But that seems like a reasonable range (240-250) for spring of 5th and aligns with the 91st+ percentile that FCPS uses.

You can score off the charts, my 6th grader did by 6 points

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some other districts in USA use 230 for Prealgebra readiness (which IMO is too low for advanced learners who expect to get a high A in math classes. I'd recommend 240-250 for Fall of year before Prealgebra)

But the MAP is a poor test for this purpose so correlations are weak.

Over in FCPS, 91%ile in 6th grade is used for Algebra in 7th

I don't know that you can even get a 250 in the fall of 5th grade. The charts I looked at topped out at 244 as the top score. But that seems like a reasonable range (240-250) for spring of 5th and aligns with the 91st+ percentile that FCPS uses.

oh thanks!

Just know that my post is based on Google searching and not any actual information from APS.

Ha, i actually meant to say thanks to the poster who told me where to find the scores! But thanks to you too

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some other districts in USA use 230 for Prealgebra readiness (which IMO is too low for advanced learners who expect to get a high A in math classes. I'd recommend 240-250 for Fall of year before Prealgebra)

But the MAP is a poor test for this purpose so correlations are weak.

Over in FCPS, 91%ile in 6th grade is used for Algebra in 7th

I don't know that you can even get a 250 in the fall of 5th grade. The charts I looked at topped out at 244 as the top score. But that seems like a reasonable range (240-250) for spring of 5th and aligns with the 91st+ percentile that FCPS uses.

oh thanks!

Just know that my post is based on Google searching and not any actual information from APS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some other districts in USA use 230 for Prealgebra readiness (which IMO is too low for advanced learners who expect to get a high A in math classes. I'd recommend 240-250 for Fall of year before Prealgebra)

But the MAP is a poor test for this purpose so correlations are weak.

Over in FCPS, 91%ile in 6th grade is used for Algebra in 7th

I don't know that you can even get a 250 in the fall of 5th grade. The charts I looked at topped out at 244 as the top score. But that seems like a reasonable range (240-250) for spring of 5th and aligns with the 91st+ percentile that FCPS uses.

oh thanks!

Anonymous wrote:Some other districts in USA use 230 for Prealgebra readiness (which IMO is too low for advanced learners who expect to get a high A in math classes. I'd recommend 240-250 for Fall of year before Prealgebra)

But the MAP is a poor test for this purpose so correlations are weak.

Over in FCPS, 91%ile in 6th grade is used for Algebra in 7th

I don't know that you can even get a 250 in the fall of 5th grade. The charts I looked at topped out at 244 as the top score. But that seems like a reasonable range (240-250) for spring of 5th and aligns with the 91st+ percentile that FCPS uses.

Anonymous wrote:Neither of my kid have had their BOY test results posted on ParentVue, so maybe they haven't gotten to every school yet (my kids aren't at the same school).

I think the SOL score last year 550+

It's up for both my kids, but not in "Documents" like prior years. There's a new tab called "Test Scores," in case you missed it with the new format.

Some other districts in USA use 230 for Prealgebra readiness (which IMO is too low for advanced learners who expect to get a high A in math classes. I'd recommend 240-250 for Fall of year before Prealgebra)

But the MAP is a poor test for this purpose so correlations are weak.

Over in FCPS, 91%ile in 6th grade is used for Algebra in 7th

Neither of my kid have had their BOY test results posted on ParentVue, so maybe they haven't gotten to every school yet (my kids aren't at the same school).

I think the SOL score last year 550+

I have no idea. BUT I will say my kid missed the cut off and I asked him to be placed in pre-algebra anyway. He was placed and his grade for Q1 is 98% and it's his favorite class. So, the cut offs aren't the best predicators for success in the class IMO.

No, but I came here to ask the same thing.

Now that APS has posted BOY testing scores, does anyone know what SOL or MAP score will be expected to be placed into pre-Algebra in 6th grade?

I know there used to be a Math Inventory cutoff, but I don't know if APS has shared the new cutoff for the MAP test.

APS doesn't provide much information about the MAP scores, but Google tells me that the 90-99th percentile score for fall of 5th grade is 229-244. For spring of 5th grade 90-99th percentile is 240-258.