Anonymous wrote:How do they work as adaptive tests? Where do they start? How does scoring work? Is the second grade test different than the fourth?

My understanding is that the test basically asks increasingly difficult questions, until your kid starts getting things wrong. Then they ask similar questions, to make sure they don't in fact know the material. This is how sometimes kids end up with grossly inappropriate (for their age) questions. They'll sometimes guess something correctly even if they have no clue what is being asked, but the luck runs out eventually, and by then, they would have seen a whole bunch of questions that are well beyond their level.

Per DD, the math tests every year were different, but the English ones were the same. That made no sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a pretty meaningless test. As far as I could tell, DD’s teachers never looked at them.

I only knew that some of the questions were grossly inappropriate when she told me that there were words on the test, not numbers or variables for doing operations. You know, words like sin and tan.

Those are functions, sine, cosine and tangent. It's trigonometry, not inappropriate words.

I know that, and you know that, but my 5th grader did not. I found it funny. She found it confusing.

From a data standpoint, the i-ready is the most important test your kids are taking. All decisions about assessing reading levels is basically run through the test at our school. Advanced math decisions were also weighed with i-ready data (not old COGAT0.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of the math iready test - my daughter got a bad score in the beginning of the fall (which is fine) but she told me that it was on multiplication and geometry that she had never seen before. She is in 3rd grade.

Why do the do the test on content they haven’t leaned yet?

It's to test growth. It isn't graded.

It's an adaptive screener--she might have by luck got a question correct and then got harder problems that she got wrong and then it adapted back down. Some kids can do more advanced mathematics beyond what has been taught so it's also important for the screener to catch that too--otherwise they will never show growth and won't be taught an appropriate level for them. The SOLs are the test that looks at content taught. But the iready is a screener and helps the teacher see what they know and don't know.

DS is strong in math but weak in language art. His iReady reading is 94 percentile, math is 71 percentile. The scores are not consistent with DS's skill level. This seems not making sense to me. I am confused.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of the math iready test - my daughter got a bad score in the beginning of the fall (which is fine) but she told me that it was on multiplication and geometry that she had never seen before. She is in 3rd grade.

Why do the do the test on content they haven’t leaned yet?

It's to test growth. It isn't graded.

It's an adaptive screener--she might have by luck got a question correct and then got harder problems that she got wrong and then it adapted back down. Some kids can do more advanced mathematics beyond what has been taught so it's also important for the screener to catch that too--otherwise they will never show growth and won't be taught an appropriate level for them. The SOLs are the test that looks at content taught. But the iready is a screener and helps the teacher see what they know and don't know.

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of the math iready test - my daughter got a bad score in the beginning of the fall (which is fine) but she told me that it was on multiplication and geometry that she had never seen before. She is in 3rd grade.

Why do the do the test on content they haven’t leaned yet?

It's to test growth. It isn't graded.

Does fcps put out this kind of benchmarking report every year or was this a post pandemic one-off? https://www.fcps.edu/news/benchmarking-data-students-start-2021-22-school-year

It looks like maybe a one off as I can't find a similar report for 22-23.

Anonymous wrote:It’s a pretty meaningless test. As far as I could tell, DD’s teachers never looked at them.

I only knew that some of the questions were grossly inappropriate when she told me that there were words on the test, not numbers or variables for doing operations. You know, words like sin and tan.

Those are functions, sine, cosine and tangent. It's trigonometry, not inappropriate words.

Anonymous wrote:How do they work as adaptive tests? Where do they start? How does scoring work? Is the second grade test different than the fourth?

Good questions - I would like to know this too.

How do they work as adaptive tests? Where do they start? How does scoring work? Is the second grade test different than the fourth?

Op - thanks all! Appreciate the input. It seems to stress DD out because she can’t figure out what to do because she hasn’t learned it yet!

It’s a pretty meaningless test. As far as I could tell, DD’s teachers never looked at them.

I only knew that some of the questions were grossly inappropriate when she told me that there were words on the test, not numbers or variables for doing operations. You know, words like sin and tan.

The test keeps presenting harder problems and teachers tell kids to just guess, so they will ceiling out and the test will be over. This teaches kids to just guess on SOLs, because it doesn’t matter, which is terrible.

As a teacher, I would opt my kid out. Waste of time and stress for all, when we could be teaching. Push back on the school board with this.

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of the math iready test - my daughter got a bad score in the beginning of the fall (which is fine) but she told me that it was on multiplication and geometry that she had never seen before. She is in 3rd grade.

Why do the do the test on content they haven’t leaned yet?

Well some kids already know how to multiply and find the perimeter of a shape, like my 2nd grader. Hopefully, the teacher will see that in iReady.

What is the point of the math iready test - my daughter got a bad score in the beginning of the fall (which is fine) but she told me that it was on multiplication and geometry that she had never seen before. She is in 3rd grade.

Why do the do the test on content they haven’t leaned yet?