Anonymous
10/28/2023 21:32
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The biker was wrong but in these scenarios the driver is also at fault for not stopping at a stop sign or taking the turn too quickly.
The biker was not wrong. All of that is permitted by the DC Code.
Where in the DC code does it say that you can pass on the right when a driver is turning? (Not being snarky -- I'm genuinely surprised and genuinely asking.)
It doesn't say that of course, but it does say that bicyclists can split the lane and come up to the intersection. Was OP's turn signal on?
Anonymous
10/28/2023 21:16
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The biker was wrong but in these scenarios the driver is also at fault for not stopping at a stop sign or taking the turn too quickly.
The biker was not wrong. All of that is permitted by the DC Code.
Where in the DC code does it say that you can pass on the right when a driver is turning? (Not being snarky -- I'm genuinely surprised and genuinely asking.)
Anonymous
10/28/2023 20:35
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone who used to not own a car and exclusively bike everywhere, but now has to drive most places, I have been on both sides of this scenario. When cycling you must presume the car does not see you. If a car has a right turn signal on, I’d never roll up on its right side. Some people in this city bike like they have a death wish. Right of way or not you’ll never win the contest of human body vs huge chunk of metal. The folks on scooters definitely have a death wish, and 95% of drivers in the city drive like absolute psychopaths.
The infrastructure is set up to fail and frustrate pretty much everyone. Some of the places they’ve put new crosswalks and bike lanes in my neighborhood blow my mind. They clearly didn’t ever actually USE these proposed paths or take into consideration the challenges they’d face (blind curves, one ways that result in drivers looking only left to turn while the crosswalk being to the right), bike lanes ending and asking the cyclist to jut out across a lane of traffic to continue, etc.
Agree. The bike rider made a dangerous assumption that you would see them. Thankfully you were going slowly and you did, so remember the scenario and look carefully to your right as well as left.
Agree with this. As a regular biker in this scenario without a marked bike lane, I would pass on the left of the car turning right (if there’s plenty of space) or wait until they completed their turn. Once I when I was actually in a clearly marked bike lane I almost got hit by a bus that was NOT signaling their right turn and that I had assumed had seen me. Never again.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:57
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:Passing on the right is never safe. This is one of many reasons why. By car or by bike. The biker was an idiot. Never pass a car on the right side.
All you drivers have no idea of the unintended consequences of what you're asking. The alternative is for the biker to take the lane, and all the cars wan stay behind her. If everyone did that, drivers would lose their minds.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:56
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:The biker was wrong but in these scenarios the driver is also at fault for not stopping at a stop sign or taking the turn too quickly.
The biker was not wrong. All of that is permitted by the DC Code.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:55
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:As someone who used to not own a car and exclusively bike everywhere, but now has to drive most places, I have been on both sides of this scenario. When cycling you must presume the car does not see you. If a car has a right turn signal on, I’d never roll up on its right side. Some people in this city bike like they have a death wish. Right of way or not you’ll never win the contest of human body vs huge chunk of metal. The folks on scooters definitely have a death wish, and 95% of drivers in the city drive like absolute psychopaths.
The infrastructure is set up to fail and frustrate pretty much everyone. Some of the places they’ve put new crosswalks and bike lanes in my neighborhood blow my mind. They clearly didn’t ever actually USE these proposed paths or take into consideration the challenges they’d face (blind curves, one ways that result in drivers looking only left to turn while the crosswalk being to the right), bike lanes ending and asking the cyclist to jut out across a lane of traffic to continue, etc.
Agree. The bike rider made a dangerous assumption that you would see them. Thankfully you were going slowly and you did, so remember the scenario and look carefully to your right as well as left.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:42
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
As someone who used to not own a car and exclusively bike everywhere, but now has to drive most places, I have been on both sides of this scenario. When cycling you must presume the car does not see you. If a car has a right turn signal on, I’d never roll up on its right side. Some people in this city bike like they have a death wish. Right of way or not you’ll never win the contest of human body vs huge chunk of metal. The folks on scooters definitely have a death wish, and 95% of drivers in the city drive like absolute psychopaths.
The infrastructure is set up to fail and frustrate pretty much everyone. Some of the places they’ve put new crosswalks and bike lanes in my neighborhood blow my mind. They clearly didn’t ever actually USE these proposed paths or take into consideration the challenges they’d face (blind curves, one ways that result in drivers looking only left to turn while the crosswalk being to the right), bike lanes ending and asking the cyclist to jut out across a lane of traffic to continue, etc.
The infrastructure is set up to fail and frustrate pretty much everyone. Some of the places they’ve put new crosswalks and bike lanes in my neighborhood blow my mind. They clearly didn’t ever actually USE these proposed paths or take into consideration the challenges they’d face (blind curves, one ways that result in drivers looking only left to turn while the crosswalk being to the right), bike lanes ending and asking the cyclist to jut out across a lane of traffic to continue, etc.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:36
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:The biker was wrong but in these scenarios the driver is also at fault for not stopping at a stop sign or taking the turn too quickly.
This. I honestly hate bike riders.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:32
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:In this case, the biker was wrong. If there was a bike lane clearly marked, and the biker was on the bike lane (usually also on the right of the car), then you would have been wrong cause she’s traveling in her lane.
In any case, it’s good you stopped. Everyone makes mistakes at some point and it’s other drivers’ paying attention and avoiding a collision that reduces rates of accidents.
Doesn’t matter who was technically right or wrong. The driver is in a 2 ton metal cage. They can afford to be wrong and drive like an a-hole. Why should they care if they kill someone on a bike? They’re already killing an entire planet. What’s one person compared to that?
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:24
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
In this case, the biker was wrong. If there was a bike lane clearly marked, and the biker was on the bike lane (usually also on the right of the car), then you would have been wrong cause she’s traveling in her lane.
In any case, it’s good you stopped. Everyone makes mistakes at some point and it’s other drivers’ paying attention and avoiding a collision that reduces rates of accidents.
In any case, it’s good you stopped. Everyone makes mistakes at some point and it’s other drivers’ paying attention and avoiding a collision that reduces rates of accidents.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:19
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Anonymous wrote:Passing on the right is never safe. This is one of many reasons why. By car or by bike. The biker was an idiot. Never pass a car on the right side.
+1
Anonymous
10/28/2023 15:17
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
Passing on the right is never safe. This is one of many reasons why. By car or by bike. The biker was an idiot. Never pass a car on the right side.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 14:46
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
The biker was wrong but in these scenarios the driver is also at fault for not stopping at a stop sign or taking the turn too quickly.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 14:44
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
If you had hit her, you would be in the wrong. But she’s also an entitled moron. Bikers should never be allowed on the right side of a car and certainly not ride up the side of one signaling to turn.
Anonymous
10/28/2023 14:25
Subject: Bikes riding up the side of the right lane
I don’t want to start a bike riders war, but I had a scare this week and want to know who was in the wrong.
I was in the right lane on Capitol Hill turning right onto Independence. The are numerous Capitol police always on the corner with their car so you have to go pretty slow because the turn is tight. I was about to turn right - with my blinker on - and a biker rides up the right side of my car and goes straight through the intersection. There is no official bike lane here. Now I was going slow so I could slam on my brakes and not hit her. She was probably 25ish and looked like a commuter.
The question is: who was wrong? There are tons of people on scooters and bikes around the hill and I feel like they’re almost always about to get hit. Does the biker have the right of way in the far right lane even if cars are there to turn right?
I was in the right lane on Capitol Hill turning right onto Independence. The are numerous Capitol police always on the corner with their car so you have to go pretty slow because the turn is tight. I was about to turn right - with my blinker on - and a biker rides up the right side of my car and goes straight through the intersection. There is no official bike lane here. Now I was going slow so I could slam on my brakes and not hit her. She was probably 25ish and looked like a commuter.
The question is: who was wrong? There are tons of people on scooters and bikes around the hill and I feel like they’re almost always about to get hit. Does the biker have the right of way in the far right lane even if cars are there to turn right?