Anonymous
10/16/2023 20:55
Subject: Re:Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
OP you seem well meaning, but I don't know what the purpose of these classifications would be.
There's no doubt plenty of bias against Israelis and Palestinians in the U.S., but I don't know what making these categories would do.
And I don't think it's a good idea to try to explain Middle East history or politics at work.
I think the best approach is to cultivate a workplace culture where employees are treated with respect. It's important to have a diverse workforce, but I wouldn't be so blatant about it where you're purposefully trying to hire from the Middle East because they're suffering.
There's no doubt plenty of bias against Israelis and Palestinians in the U.S., but I don't know what making these categories would do.
And I don't think it's a good idea to try to explain Middle East history or politics at work.
I think the best approach is to cultivate a workplace culture where employees are treated with respect. It's important to have a diverse workforce, but I wouldn't be so blatant about it where you're purposefully trying to hire from the Middle East because they're suffering.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 20:25
Subject: Re:Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
If you can pass as white, it's simply easier for general society (including companies) to categorize you as such. Middle easterners who are white passing will use this to their advantage however they feel fit. I understand they might not feel the same way about their 'whiteness' in american society as those of Euro origins, but non white passing URM will never have this advantage of choosing to blend in vs stand out depending on situations. That is a massive difference.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 20:12
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
It sounds like white males are the minority in OP's office.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 19:47
Subject: Re:Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
There is no utility in categorizing people by, let alone making employment-related decisions based on, ethnicity/religion. Those are characteristics which are incidental and irrelevant to qualification and suitability for employment.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 16:37
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Anonymous wrote:No. You're just adding more identity politics to the workplace.
All identities should be left behind the moment you walk into the door of the office. We need less, not more, identity politics.
The Supreme Court will come for Corporate America next.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 16:13
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Did it occur to you that people don’t want to be cast as victims, especially not at work? SMH
Anonymous
10/16/2023 16:06
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Anonymous wrote:No. You're just adding more identity politics to the workplace.
All identities should be left behind the moment you walk into the door of the office. We need less, not more, identity politics.
+1000
OP I wish I had the spare time you put into thinking about things like this
Anonymous
10/16/2023 16:05
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Anonymous wrote:What is the purpose of the classification? I think that quill help you figure out what classifications would be helpful. For example, Do you think that Jewish (a religion, by the way, not a race) people are underrepresented or, due to being Jewish, are or were systematically disadvantaged in getting a job?
Our corporate dei initiatives
Anonymous
10/16/2023 16:03
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Anonymous wrote:No. You're just adding more identity politics to the workplace.
All identities should be left behind the moment you walk into the door of the office. We need less, not more, identity politics.
+ 1 million
Anonymous
10/16/2023 16:00
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
"Recent events and the ongoing turmoil in the Middle East, particularly involving Palestine and Israel"
Would you care if it were another part of the world? Say Northern Ireland and Ireland?
Would you care if it were another part of the world? Say Northern Ireland and Ireland?
Anonymous
10/16/2023 15:49
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
What is the purpose of the classification? I think that quill help you figure out what classifications would be helpful. For example, Do you think that Jewish (a religion, by the way, not a race) people are underrepresented or, due to being Jewish, are or were systematically disadvantaged in getting a job?
Anonymous
10/16/2023 15:49
Subject: Re:Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Some corporate boards recognize individuals who are middle eastern as diverse noting (i think correctly) that in many respects these individuals have experienced prejudice of some kind and perhaps bring a perspective that is different because of their country of origin or ethnic background.
That religion is a protected category may be a reason why these groups are not considered minorities.
I don’t think many companies are handling communications about this war with nuance which is regrettable (Palestinians and Israelis are suffering right now and Palestinians are not Hamas). I say this as an American Jew.
That religion is a protected category may be a reason why these groups are not considered minorities.
I don’t think many companies are handling communications about this war with nuance which is regrettable (Palestinians and Israelis are suffering right now and Palestinians are not Hamas). I say this as an American Jew.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 15:45
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
No. You're just adding more identity politics to the workplace.
All identities should be left behind the moment you walk into the door of the office. We need less, not more, identity politics.
All identities should be left behind the moment you walk into the door of the office. We need less, not more, identity politics.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 15:34
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Anonymous wrote:Recent events and the ongoing turmoil in the Middle East, particularly involving Palestine and Israel, have been at the forefront of my thoughts. These events have prompted me to deeply reflect on the representation and categorization of minorities in our workplace, and I'd greatly value your input.
At my company, the officially recognized underrepresented minorities include:
Black individuals
Hispanic individuals
Those identifying as two or more races
Indigenous peoples
Pacific Islanders
Women
A point of contention for me is the classification of Arabs and, importantly, Jews from Israel. In our organization, Arabs are categorized under the 'white' label, meaning they aren't recognized as an underrepresented minority. Similarly, Jews, especially those from Israel who have faced significant challenges both historically and in recent times, aren't explicitly recognized.
Considering the hardships and complexities faced by communities from regions like war-torn Lebanon, Palestine, and Israel, I feel that our categorization might benefit from reconsideration.
I'm keen to gather diverse perspectives on this issue:
Given the historical and recent challenges faced by both Arab and Jewish communities, particularly those from Israel, do you think our organizational classifications should be revisited to better represent these groups?
How do your organizations classify or consider Middle Eastern origins, including both Arab and Jewish identities, in terms of representation?
Has anyone faced a similar dilemma or can share how such decisions were made at your workplace, especially in light of current global events?
Ensuring our definitions are both inclusive and reflective of real-world dynamics is paramount. I believe that by doing so, we can create a more empathetic and understanding workplace. Please share your insights, experiences, and suggestions.
Interesting post and good that you care - many Middle Eastern people put "Other" since the White label is not fully representative - some companies encourage that actually...
Anonymous
10/16/2023 15:22
Subject: Reevaluating Underrepresented Minorities in the Workplace in Light of Recent Middle East Events
Recent events and the ongoing turmoil in the Middle East, particularly involving Palestine and Israel, have been at the forefront of my thoughts. These events have prompted me to deeply reflect on the representation and categorization of minorities in our workplace, and I'd greatly value your input.
At my company, the officially recognized underrepresented minorities include:
Black individuals
Hispanic individuals
Those identifying as two or more races
Indigenous peoples
Pacific Islanders
Women
A point of contention for me is the classification of Arabs and, importantly, Jews from Israel. In our organization, Arabs are categorized under the 'white' label, meaning they aren't recognized as an underrepresented minority. Similarly, Jews, especially those from Israel who have faced significant challenges both historically and in recent times, aren't explicitly recognized.
Considering the hardships and complexities faced by communities from regions like war-torn Lebanon, Palestine, and Israel, I feel that our categorization might benefit from reconsideration.
I'm keen to gather diverse perspectives on this issue:
Given the historical and recent challenges faced by both Arab and Jewish communities, particularly those from Israel, do you think our organizational classifications should be revisited to better represent these groups?
How do your organizations classify or consider Middle Eastern origins, including both Arab and Jewish identities, in terms of representation?
Has anyone faced a similar dilemma or can share how such decisions were made at your workplace, especially in light of current global events?
Ensuring our definitions are both inclusive and reflective of real-world dynamics is paramount. I believe that by doing so, we can create a more empathetic and understanding workplace. Please share your insights, experiences, and suggestions.
At my company, the officially recognized underrepresented minorities include:
Black individuals
Hispanic individuals
Those identifying as two or more races
Indigenous peoples
Pacific Islanders
Women
A point of contention for me is the classification of Arabs and, importantly, Jews from Israel. In our organization, Arabs are categorized under the 'white' label, meaning they aren't recognized as an underrepresented minority. Similarly, Jews, especially those from Israel who have faced significant challenges both historically and in recent times, aren't explicitly recognized.
Considering the hardships and complexities faced by communities from regions like war-torn Lebanon, Palestine, and Israel, I feel that our categorization might benefit from reconsideration.
I'm keen to gather diverse perspectives on this issue:
Given the historical and recent challenges faced by both Arab and Jewish communities, particularly those from Israel, do you think our organizational classifications should be revisited to better represent these groups?
How do your organizations classify or consider Middle Eastern origins, including both Arab and Jewish identities, in terms of representation?
Has anyone faced a similar dilemma or can share how such decisions were made at your workplace, especially in light of current global events?
Ensuring our definitions are both inclusive and reflective of real-world dynamics is paramount. I believe that by doing so, we can create a more empathetic and understanding workplace. Please share your insights, experiences, and suggestions.