Anonymous
10/15/2023 12:37
Subject: Re:Dufief Elementary Performance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Like the poster above said, it’s likely because of the specific Learning Center special Ed program at DuFief. It is a self-contained program for kids who are significantly below grade level but still technically diploma-bound. Since they are diploma-bound, they take the same PARCC/MCAP assessments as their peers despite significant leaning needs thus,”bringing down” the scores for the overall school. The scores for the general Ed students are likely similar to surrounding schools and DuFief students get the experience of going to school alongside students with a wide range of abilities.
Can someone tell me more about this learning center special ed program? I have a kid below grade level on math/reading/writing due to learning disabilities, and there are no other social/behavior concerns or diagnosis. He has IEP, and he only sucks at academic. We are not zoned to Dufief. Does that mean learning center special ed program might be a good fit for him?
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/special-education/programs-services/age-elementary-to-secondary/#ELC
It sounds like your students is in the LAD program receiving academic supports. This is available at all schools. The Elementary Learning Centers are for students with more profound disabilities. You can ask your IEP team if this is a fit for your child. If a special education student needs a particular program that’s at another school, they will have that as the placement for your child and then provide transportation.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 12:12
Subject: Re:Dufief Elementary Performance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Like the poster above said, it’s likely because of the specific Learning Center special Ed program at DuFief. It is a self-contained program for kids who are significantly below grade level but still technically diploma-bound. Since they are diploma-bound, they take the same PARCC/MCAP assessments as their peers despite significant leaning needs thus,”bringing down” the scores for the overall school. The scores for the general Ed students are likely similar to surrounding schools and DuFief students get the experience of going to school alongside students with a wide range of abilities.
Can someone tell me more about this learning center special ed program? I have a kid below grade level on math/reading/writing due to learning disabilities, and there are no other social/behavior concerns or diagnosis. He has IEP, and he only sucks at academic. We are not zoned to Dufief. Does that mean learning center special ed program might be a good fit for him?
That's a question better asked in the special needs forum.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 10:14
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
I do believe this is the impact of having a learning center. 1) there is a significant number of a staff members in these programs which brings the school’s staff:student ratio down dramatically 2) as noted above, because these students are diploma bound they take the same assessments and there is no “curve” or “weight” given to their scores despite the fact some may have cognitive disabilities or lntellectual disabilities that would impact their scores.
As for PP, there are several learning centers in the county so depending on your school zone, it might be the Dufief LC or another one that is closer to you.
As for PP, there are several learning centers in the county so depending on your school zone, it might be the Dufief LC or another one that is closer to you.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 07:34
Subject: Re:Dufief Elementary Performance
Anonymous wrote:Like the poster above said, it’s likely because of the specific Learning Center special Ed program at DuFief. It is a self-contained program for kids who are significantly below grade level but still technically diploma-bound. Since they are diploma-bound, they take the same PARCC/MCAP assessments as their peers despite significant leaning needs thus,”bringing down” the scores for the overall school. The scores for the general Ed students are likely similar to surrounding schools and DuFief students get the experience of going to school alongside students with a wide range of abilities.
Can someone tell me more about this learning center special ed program? I have a kid below grade level on math/reading/writing due to learning disabilities, and there are no other social/behavior concerns or diagnosis. He has IEP, and he only sucks at academic. We are not zoned to Dufief. Does that mean learning center special ed program might be a good fit for him?
Anonymous
10/15/2023 02:45
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
Anonymous wrote:I've been looking at Dufief Elementary's performance relative to other elementary schools in the area.
Other nearby elementary schools seem to generally have similar levels of performance, but Dufief scores significantly lower, despite having a much better student/teacher ratio.
Does anyone have insight into the discrepancy here? Below are some summaries with links to additional data.
Dufief Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 9.4
2023 Test Score Average: 84.34
Stone Mill Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 96.81
Rachel Carson Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 15.2
2023 Test Score Average: 95.99
Lakewood Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 94.21
Travilah Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 16.6
2023 Test Score Average: 94.62
Teacher/student ratio is misleading.
Teacher/substitute qualifications should be reported. This has significant impact on student test scores.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 02:39
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
Do they publish scores of gen Ed vs Sp Ed?
Anonymous
10/14/2023 20:50
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
DuFief's MCAP Proficient goes up from 62% to 82% when you drill from "All Students" to "Students without Disabilities".
Anonymous
10/14/2023 20:42
Subject: Re:Dufief Elementary Performance
Like the poster above said, it’s likely because of the specific Learning Center special Ed program at DuFief. It is a self-contained program for kids who are significantly below grade level but still technically diploma-bound. Since they are diploma-bound, they take the same PARCC/MCAP assessments as their peers despite significant leaning needs thus,”bringing down” the scores for the overall school. The scores for the general Ed students are likely similar to surrounding schools and DuFief students get the experience of going to school alongside students with a wide range of abilities.
Anonymous
10/14/2023 18:46
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
Anonymous wrote:I've been looking at Dufief Elementary's performance relative to other elementary schools in the area.
Other nearby elementary schools seem to generally have similar levels of performance, but Dufief scores significantly lower, despite having a much better student/teacher ratio.
Does anyone have insight into the discrepancy here? Below are some summaries with links to additional data.
Dufief Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 9.4
2023 Test Score Average: 84.34
Stone Mill Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 96.81
Rachel Carson Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 15.2
2023 Test Score Average: 95.99
Lakewood Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 94.21
Travilah Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 16.6
2023 Test Score Average: 94.62
I heard it’s because it has a special education program
Anonymous
10/14/2023 18:34
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
Dufief’s farm rate seems similar to the others. In fact it’s significantly lower than that of RCES, about which I’ve seen complaints of overcrowding.
Anonymous
10/14/2023 18:18
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
Maybe higher farm rate? Student teacher doesn’t mean much, it could just be the enrollment is low
Anonymous
10/14/2023 18:06
Subject: Dufief Elementary Performance
I've been looking at Dufief Elementary's performance relative to other elementary schools in the area.
Other nearby elementary schools seem to generally have similar levels of performance, but Dufief scores significantly lower, despite having a much better student/teacher ratio.
Does anyone have insight into the discrepancy here? Below are some summaries with links to additional data.
Dufief Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 9.4
2023 Test Score Average: 84.34
Stone Mill Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 96.81
Rachel Carson Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 15.2
2023 Test Score Average: 95.99
Lakewood Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 94.21
Travilah Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 16.6
2023 Test Score Average: 94.62
Other nearby elementary schools seem to generally have similar levels of performance, but Dufief scores significantly lower, despite having a much better student/teacher ratio.
Does anyone have insight into the discrepancy here? Below are some summaries with links to additional data.
Dufief Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 9.4
2023 Test Score Average: 84.34
Stone Mill Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 96.81
Rachel Carson Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 15.2
2023 Test Score Average: 95.99
Lakewood Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 14.8
2023 Test Score Average: 94.21
Travilah Elementary
MCPS Report card
Schooldigger
Student/teacher ratio: 16.6
2023 Test Score Average: 94.62