Anonymous
10/11/2023 23:48
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Anonymous wrote:23+10
2 tens 3 ones plus 1 tens
What is 2 tens and 1 tens? 3 tens
So it’s 30.
Then add 3 ones.
30+3= 33.
You call this easy?
Or 92-20
9 tens 2 ones minus 2 tens
What is 9tens minus 2tens? 7 tens
That’s 70.
Oh don’t forget to add 2 ones to that. That’s 72!
You call this easy?
NP. Yes, Super easy. It’s the underlying explanation for how the math works. The problem is not that it’s difficult it’s that most people don’t understand the concepts and therefore can’t teach it to others. Not understanding the concept hurts student as they get to higher levels of math. Without understanding the concepts it’s hard to apply math to real world scenarios. Further, writing out the answer get kid use to how word problems will look.
Now how easy person will find the about is subjective.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 23:00
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Anonymous wrote:Does the teacher at least mark answers as correct regardless of how a student reached the answer? Best practice is not to get too hung up on the way students solve problems, but to make sure they know at least one way to do it. If the teacher is marking questions wrong for not doing it a particular way, then the teacher is not engaging properly with the curriculum.
Eureka is a curriculum that shows kids lots of ways to do arithmetic problems, lots of ways to think about what an operation means, which is confounding for some parents (and frankly some teachers too.) Most elementary math curricula do this too, including the popular homeschooling curricula, so it's not just Eureka that would be frustrating to OP. It is wholly unnecessary to get a tutor for elementary school baby math just because the school teaches a few "odd" ways of solving problems. OP can watch a few YT videos, or simply teach their child their own way of doing arithmetic.
The curriculum requires that the kid learn and use all the methods; later, it allows the kid to use whatever method works best for them. The point is to develop the deep number sense first. Get a tutor who understands the Eureka system and terminology. Watch the videos. Use Zearn, if available, as it's keyed to Eureka.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:28
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Does the teacher at least mark answers as correct regardless of how a student reached the answer? Best practice is not to get too hung up on the way students solve problems, but to make sure they know at least one way to do it. If the teacher is marking questions wrong for not doing it a particular way, then the teacher is not engaging properly with the curriculum.
Eureka is a curriculum that shows kids lots of ways to do arithmetic problems, lots of ways to think about what an operation means, which is confounding for some parents (and frankly some teachers too.) Most elementary math curricula do this too, including the popular homeschooling curricula, so it's not just Eureka that would be frustrating to OP. It is wholly unnecessary to get a tutor for elementary school baby math just because the school teaches a few "odd" ways of solving problems. OP can watch a few YT videos, or simply teach their child their own way of doing arithmetic.
Eureka is a curriculum that shows kids lots of ways to do arithmetic problems, lots of ways to think about what an operation means, which is confounding for some parents (and frankly some teachers too.) Most elementary math curricula do this too, including the popular homeschooling curricula, so it's not just Eureka that would be frustrating to OP. It is wholly unnecessary to get a tutor for elementary school baby math just because the school teaches a few "odd" ways of solving problems. OP can watch a few YT videos, or simply teach their child their own way of doing arithmetic.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:25
Subject: Re:Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t know specifics about Eureka, but here’s my opinion on methods in general.
Understanding the math is what’s important, and the mathematical principles are independent of method. All the methods are designed to help with understanding. If the method is not helpful with understanding the math concept, teach them whatever makes sense to you. Just make sure that whatever you teach them is mathematically correct, and that they understand WHY (the relevant math concepts) it works. Once they understand the underlying mathematic principles, the teacher should be able to explain the method. In any case, understanding the actual math is far more important than learning the procedure for a particular method.
That’s cute, but that won’t work with Eureka in second grade. The direction say “solve using an algorithm” or “use a number line to….” And you can’t choose a different strategy.
Exactly. I posted an example above. We were supposed to solve using place values
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:24
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Anonymous wrote:Every homework page in the Eureka math book has an accompanying explanation page which shows how to solve those exact problems. Do you have access to the entire book? If not, speak to the teacher about getting those pages. Sometimes they are also available online.
Our teacher sends these stapled to their homework sheets. Sometimes I have to google a term, but they’re very helpful. Asking for them would be a good place to start.
And yes, I’m a (parent) fan of Eureka math. For kids that “get” math at least. Teacher friends say it’s confusing and too complicated with the various methods for some kids. But it teaches the theories and principles much better than we learned, and I think provides a better foundation for advanced math in the future. Again, if your child gets it. If your child struggled with Eureka and RSM, I think shopping around for the right tutor is a good idea.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:15
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
23+10
2 tens 3 ones plus 1 tens
What is 2 tens and 1 tens? 3 tens
So it’s 30.
Then add 3 ones.
30+3= 33.
You call this easy?
Or 92-20
9 tens 2 ones minus 2 tens
What is 9tens minus 2tens? 7 tens
That’s 70.
Oh don’t forget to add 2 ones to that. That’s 72!
You call this easy?
2 tens 3 ones plus 1 tens
What is 2 tens and 1 tens? 3 tens
So it’s 30.
Then add 3 ones.
30+3= 33.
You call this easy?
Or 92-20
9 tens 2 ones minus 2 tens
What is 9tens minus 2tens? 7 tens
That’s 70.
Oh don’t forget to add 2 ones to that. That’s 72!
You call this easy?
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:08
Subject: Re:Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know specifics about Eureka, but here’s my opinion on methods in general.
Understanding the math is what’s important, and the mathematical principles are independent of method. All the methods are designed to help with understanding. If the method is not helpful with understanding the math concept, teach them whatever makes sense to you. Just make sure that whatever you teach them is mathematically correct, and that they understand WHY (the relevant math concepts) it works. Once they understand the underlying mathematic principles, the teacher should be able to explain the method. In any case, understanding the actual math is far more important than learning the procedure for a particular method.
That’s cute, but that won’t work with Eureka in second grade. The direction say “solve using an algorithm” or “use a number line to….” And you can’t choose a different strategy.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:07
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Anonymous wrote:I would switch to a tutor who can work within Eureka. And you, separately, watch the Eureka videos and figure it out before you help your child.
This. The point isn’t for you to become an expert on math curricula - it’s to help your kid learn math. Eureka is what the school uses, so get a tutor fluent in it.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:05
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
My DD's second grade teacher recommended getting on Youtube to watch the videos. I find the initial instruction page prior to each module helpful.
The other day, my DD spent a fair amount of time doing a simple problem 87-9 - giving me her strategies, drawing arrows, breaking things down, etc. It was like watching paint dry. I just used my fingers and was done in a few seconds.
If you or your child is getting stressed then I would get a tutor. I bet you could even find a high schooler who has been through this math and just has the patience for it.
The other day, my DD spent a fair amount of time doing a simple problem 87-9 - giving me her strategies, drawing arrows, breaking things down, etc. It was like watching paint dry. I just used my fingers and was done in a few seconds.
If you or your child is getting stressed then I would get a tutor. I bet you could even find a high schooler who has been through this math and just has the patience for it.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:03
Subject: Re:Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
I don’t know specifics about Eureka, but here’s my opinion on methods in general.
Understanding the math is what’s important, and the mathematical principles are independent of method. All the methods are designed to help with understanding. If the method is not helpful with understanding the math concept, teach them whatever makes sense to you. Just make sure that whatever you teach them is mathematically correct, and that they understand WHY (the relevant math concepts) it works. Once they understand the underlying mathematic principles, the teacher should be able to explain the method. In any case, understanding the actual math is far more important than learning the procedure for a particular method.
Understanding the math is what’s important, and the mathematical principles are independent of method. All the methods are designed to help with understanding. If the method is not helpful with understanding the math concept, teach them whatever makes sense to you. Just make sure that whatever you teach them is mathematically correct, and that they understand WHY (the relevant math concepts) it works. Once they understand the underlying mathematic principles, the teacher should be able to explain the method. In any case, understanding the actual math is far more important than learning the procedure for a particular method.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 22:00
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Every homework page in the Eureka math book has an accompanying explanation page which shows how to solve those exact problems. Do you have access to the entire book? If not, speak to the teacher about getting those pages. Sometimes they are also available online.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 21:57
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
I would switch to a tutor who can work within Eureka. And you, separately, watch the Eureka videos and figure it out before you help your child.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 21:49
Subject: Re:Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
I’m a teacher and personally I am a fan of Eureka but I know not everyone is and they have fair points. It’s not perfect.
There are a lot of resources and videos, some for every single lesson so if homework comes home and you’re confused you can watch a video.
There’s also Zearn. You can make a free parent account and your child can go through the entire curriculum. It’s not made by Eureka but it’s the same exact content (at least for my grade level) and problems that we do in class.
There are a lot of resources and videos, some for every single lesson so if homework comes home and you’re confused you can watch a video.
There’s also Zearn. You can make a free parent account and your child can go through the entire curriculum. It’s not made by Eureka but it’s the same exact content (at least for my grade level) and problems that we do in class.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 21:45
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
We are using a tutoring place not a private tutor. Should we just get a private one?
Anonymous
10/11/2023 21:41
Subject: Eureka math. Is it the right way to learn math?
Our child is struggling. We are struggling. It’s a lot of work for me to understand this math. We got a tutor and just found out they use different methods. No our child is even more confused. This is turning into a nightmare. Every night is filled with stress and child is only on 2nd grade! What do we do? I am just so overwhelmed by this. We did RSM last year but it didn’t work. They also use different methods. I am confused about all these various methods. Why not use just one?! I hate explaining place values.