What's up with the exclamation point in the title of the thread? Contradicts your first post.

Anonymous wrote:College counselors and coaches are constantly saying that recruited athletes need the same grades, course rigor, scores, etc. as any other applicant. The athlete “hook” might help them beat out another qualified kid, but they must have qualifying stats to begin with. True? Because anecdotally, it doesn’t seem true.

Depends on the school, and whether you consider extracurriculars to be part of "stats".

An athlete applying to a NESCAC or Ivy or another highly selective school, is going to have GPA, rigor and test scores in the same range as other kids who are accepted, but also the same range as many kids who are rejected. The other kids who are accepted will have other things that make them stand out. Well connected parents, stellar scores in math competitions, and amazing essay that got noticed etc . . .

But if you look at P5 schools, then the athletes do not need to meet the same academic criteria.

At least, that's my understanding.

#notallrecruitedathletes

I know a valedictorian who was a recruited athlete at Dartmouth and a salutatorian who was a recruited athlete at Brown.

But I have enough knowledge of statistics to know that a sample size of 2 is pretty meaningless.

Anonymous wrote:My DS is a D1 athlete at a T25. Yes, he had SAT score above the 75th percentile for that school and 4 plus gpa with 10 AP’s. Happened to be a stellar athlete to boot. Same for another kid whose stats and rigor I know on his team. It’s incredibly difficult handling academics and 40hours of sport/travel a week, so having a solid academic base/study habits/intellect is essential.

Again, what is the sport? We all know that the "one-and-done" basketball players at Duke do not have anything near the stats of the non-athletes at Duke.

Anonymous wrote:College counselors and coaches are constantly saying that recruited athletes need the same grades, course rigor, scores, etc. as any other applicant. The athlete “hook” might help them beat out another qualified kid, but they must have qualifying stats to begin with. True? Because anecdotally, it doesn’t seem true.

lol I went to a D3 SLAC and the guys on the football and baseball teams were morons

Anonymous wrote:Even IF they had lower stats I guess you've got to give them credit for so many hours of practice while maintaining their academics

No I give them no credit.

Anonymous wrote:I mean, the one girl I know that got recruited to go to harvard had perfect grades and a perfect 1600 on her SAT. And the not-so-studious kids on my team who had mediocre grades, went to mediocre colleges too.

Prior to TO, I believe the average SAT on the Harvard football team was in the low 1300s. That's not nothing, but it's several hundred points below the average for the school (even prior to TO).

My DS is a D1 athlete at a T25. Yes, he had SAT score above the 75th percentile for that school and 4 plus gpa with 10 AP’s. Happened to be a stellar athlete to boot. Same for another kid whose stats and rigor I know on his team. It’s incredibly difficult handling academics and 40hours of sport/travel a week, so having a solid academic base/study habits/intellect is essential.

Even IF they had lower stats I guess you've got to give them credit for so many hours of practice while maintaining their academics

Anonymous wrote:College counselors and coaches are constantly saying that recruited athletes need the same grades, course rigor, scores, etc. as any other applicant. The athlete “hook” might help them beat out another qualified kid, but they must have qualifying stats to begin with. True? Because anecdotally, it doesn’t seem true.

Pretty sure you are making this up because no college counselor who understands recruited athletes for Division 1 schools, nor college coaches of the majority of Division 1 schools would say this. Sure, for D1 schools that don't award sports scholarships, you can't be a total dolt...but there are still minimum standards that are below the averages at the school for non-athletes.

For Power 5 conferences in revenue sports...coaches just need you to hit NCAA minimums if they are recruiting you.

I mean, the one girl I know that got recruited to go to harvard had perfect grades and a perfect 1600 on her SAT. And the not-so-studious kids on my team who had mediocre grades, went to mediocre colleges too.

Which *

They need the minimum with can be very high for some schools.

lol. Yeah right. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you

College counselors and coaches are constantly saying that recruited athletes need the same grades, course rigor, scores, etc. as any other applicant. The athlete “hook” might help them beat out another qualified kid, but they must have qualifying stats to begin with. True? Because anecdotally, it doesn’t seem true.