Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 13:01     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Standards based grading" doesn't matter. It's just a communication style. No college is reading your 50 category standards based grading report, they just want your GPA an courses.


Incorrect. SBG lowers the GPA for high achieving students. It matters.


But is it more equitable?


No, it is not more equitable. First, most schools in FCPS do not use sBG. Those students have many other assignments that can boost a grade. Schools with sBG do not. (Let’s be real, colleges look at school districts, too, not just the individual schools). Second, with sBG teachers are told what the grades should equate in words. At btsn my kid’s HS teacher said that a C is considered almost at mastery. She said she hates that but it’s required by the department and principals, so other schools give a B or B+ and this school gives a C. Third, there are no retakes; other schools have retakes.

The underlying idea is that it’s u fair to kids who can’t do HW bc they need to work or must watch younger siblings AND bc of one of those tasks, cannot do HW…so let’s not count that. How many kids do you think this affects?

What it does is help the lowest performing kids because instead of having 10 Fs for failing to do any work, they can take a test, get a c or D and pass the class. The problem with this is the preceding paragraph. 99.99% of the kids doing this, aren’t Doing it bc doing hw is a true impossibility.

It brings the top down and bottom up and smushes them together in the middle. Inequitably.

The other poster seemed to think it was more equitable. I think you're just against equity.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 12:39     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Standards based grading" doesn't matter. It's just a communication style. No college is reading your 50 category standards based grading report, they just want your GPA an courses.


Incorrect. SBG lowers the GPA for high achieving students. It matters.


But is it more equitable?


No, it is not more equitable. First, most schools in FCPS do not use sBG. Those students have many other assignments that can boost a grade. Schools with sBG do not. (Let’s be real, colleges look at school districts, too, not just the individual schools). Second, with sBG teachers are told what the grades should equate in words. At btsn my kid’s HS teacher said that a C is considered almost at mastery. She said she hates that but it’s required by the department and principals, so other schools give a B or B+ and this school gives a C. Third, there are no retakes; other schools have retakes.

The underlying idea is that it’s u fair to kids who can’t do HW bc they need to work or must watch younger siblings AND bc of one of those tasks, cannot do HW…so let’s not count that. How many kids do you think this affects?

What it does is help the lowest performing kids because instead of having 10 Fs for failing to do any work, they can take a test, get a c or D and pass the class. The problem with this is the preceding paragraph. 99.99% of the kids doing this, aren’t Doing it bc doing hw is a true impossibility.

It brings the top down and bottom up and smushes them together in the middle. Inequitably.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 08:26     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Standards based grading" doesn't matter. It's just a communication style. No college is reading your 50 category standards based grading report, they just want your GPA an courses.


Incorrect. SBG lowers the GPA for high achieving students. It matters.


But is it more equitable?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 20:31     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Standards based grading" doesn't matter. It's just a communication style. No college is reading your 50 category standards based grading report, they just want your GPA an courses.


Incorrect. SBG lowers the GPA for high achieving students. It matters.


This x1000. SBG takes away the top grades so kids are smushed in the middle, thereby making grades equitable across the board.


Interesting. Do you know how it is calculated? Is it same as "curving" which bumps up the grades of the lower performing students?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 17:41     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Standards based grading" doesn't matter. It's just a communication style. No college is reading your 50 category standards based grading report, they just want your GPA an courses.


Incorrect. SBG lowers the GPA for high achieving students. It matters.


This x1000. SBG takes away the top grades so kids are smushed in the middle, thereby making grades equitable across the board.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 14:06     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Some tj classes have rolling grade book. Some don’t. I think it’s left to the departments to decide. Some allow late work with a penalty. Some do not.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 09:21     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rolling grade book is 5 years old at TJ

https://www.tjtoday.org/24002/showcase/rolling-gradebook-rolls-into-jefferson-with-improved-accuracy-and-stress-reducing-benefits/

And it doesn't mean deadlines are different; it means that the grade for a whole semester or year average, not artificial re-averages of quarterly averages.


Reading article, seems rolling grade book can be a plus for all students. The stands based grading as explained by other posters does seem to be more closing gap by pulling down top grades than bringing up potentially lower grades. Is it optional for schools to do one but not other?


so is the GPA calculated based on weight for each quarter or it is based on the final grade? I mean B+,A-, A-, A in four quarters. Will the GPA be based on the last "A" or include intermediate grades in earlier quarters?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 12:26     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:Rolling grade book is 5 years old at TJ

https://www.tjtoday.org/24002/showcase/rolling-gradebook-rolls-into-jefferson-with-improved-accuracy-and-stress-reducing-benefits/

And it doesn't mean deadlines are different; it means that the grade for a whole semester or year average, not artificial re-averages of quarterly averages.


Reading article, seems rolling grade book can be a plus for all students. The stands based grading as explained by other posters does seem to be more closing gap by pulling down top grades than bringing up potentially lower grades. Is it optional for schools to do one but not other?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 10:00     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:"Standards based grading" doesn't matter. It's just a communication style. No college is reading your 50 category standards based grading report, they just want your GPA an courses.


Incorrect. SBG lowers the GPA for high achieving students. It matters.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 09:59     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Rolling grade book is 5 years old at TJ

https://www.tjtoday.org/24002/showcase/rolling-gradebook-rolls-into-jefferson-with-improved-accuracy-and-stress-reducing-benefits/

And it doesn't mean deadlines are different; it means that the grade for a whole semester or year average, not artificial re-averages of quarterly averages.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 09:56     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

"Standards based grading" doesn't matter. It's just a communication style. No college is reading your 50 category standards based grading report, they just want your GPA an courses.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 09:31     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Anonymous wrote:Is TJ following the rolling grade book and standards based grading now, with make up tests and can turn in homework late? Just curious if being applied in all schools, including the STEM magnet or whatever it is classified as by FCPS.

It might not make a difference whether it is official policy or not. Given the rigor and pace of TJ's courses, kids have to keep up with homework and tests. Cascading late homework assignments there would soon be unrecoverable.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 16:00     Subject: Does TJ do rolling grade book & SBG now?

Is TJ following the rolling grade book and standards based grading now, with make up tests and can turn in homework late? Just curious if being applied in all schools, including the STEM magnet or whatever it is classified as by FCPS.