Anonymous
10/01/2023 00:41
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:There was a player at our club last year that was playing for a boys team at our club and a girls team at another club. Apparently that’s fine? And both clubs knew (i think? Our club definitely knew about both)
If this is City Sporting, that was an ECNL card and and EDP card.
Anonymous
10/01/2023 00:39
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
There was a player at our club last year that was playing for a boys team at our club and a girls team at another club. Apparently that’s fine? And both clubs knew (i think? Our club definitely knew about both)
Anonymous
10/01/2023 00:30
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole question reeks. Honestly, you want to go around your team’s back to play elsewhere and not have anyone know? And when your kid is tired or beat up from another game, or another parent or coach hears what’s happening, you say what exactly? Jeez, just be up front.
“I want my kid to have more playing time. He would like to guest play with x.”
It’s the same carding system. So they will figure it out once they start to input your kid.
It's clear few of you are managers. For most tournaments the guest players are just uploaded in a different PDF. There's no digital card by card upload. No cross checking.
Editing myself- didn't realize this was an ECNL discussion. Disregard.
Anonymous
10/01/2023 00:21
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole question reeks. Honestly, you want to go around your team’s back to play elsewhere and not have anyone know? And when your kid is tired or beat up from another game, or another parent or coach hears what’s happening, you say what exactly? Jeez, just be up front.
“I want my kid to have more playing time. He would like to guest play with x.”
It’s the same carding system. So they will figure it out once they start to input your kid.
It's clear few of you are managers. For most tournaments the guest players are just uploaded in a different PDF. There's no digital card by card upload. No cross checking.
Anonymous
09/30/2023 17:05
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:This whole question reeks. Honestly, you want to go around your team’s back to play elsewhere and not have anyone know? And when your kid is tired or beat up from another game, or another parent or coach hears what’s happening, you say what exactly? Jeez, just be up front.
“I want my kid to have more playing time. He would like to guest play with x.”
It’s the same carding system. So they will figure it out once they start to input your kid.
Anonymous
09/30/2023 09:50
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
This whole question reeks. Honestly, you want to go around your team’s back to play elsewhere and not have anyone know? And when your kid is tired or beat up from another game, or another parent or coach hears what’s happening, you say what exactly? Jeez, just be up front.
“I want my kid to have more playing time. He would like to guest play with x.”
“I want my kid to have more playing time. He would like to guest play with x.”
Anonymous
09/30/2023 09:43
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
“So at some point, you ask the coach and then your admin for a digital copy of your player card. Then you have it. When you guest play, you just forward the digital card to the team manager/coach of the team you are guest playing with. Once you have a digital copy, you don't have to ask for your player card again. You might ask for permission but you don't ever need the physical card.”
Correct, except most of not all registrations are electronic and would be tracked with your player ID. You can log onto GotSoccer to see all the things your kids have been registered for - across clubs.
Correct, except most of not all registrations are electronic and would be tracked with your player ID. You can log onto GotSoccer to see all the things your kids have been registered for - across clubs.
Anonymous
09/30/2023 06:58
Subject: Re:ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So there are two overarching soccer organizations. US Club Soccer and US Youth Soccer. Each player can only have one player card/pass from each organization and that player card must be linked to a specific team. Each team belongs to a league and each league belongs to one of these two organizations.
NCSL=USYS
EDP=USYS
ECNL-R=US Club
ECNL=US Club
So, for example, you cannot be rostered on an ECNL team (US Club) and a different club's ECNL-R team (US Club), but you can be double rostered on an EDP team or NCSL team. Once you have a player card, you can guest play...with some limitations. Some tournaments, and I have no idea why, require that if the team entering the tournament is registered in a USYS league (NCSL for example), the guest players must have a USYS player card. If the team entering the tournament is registered with a US Club league (ECNL-R for example), the guest player must have a US Club player card. So in other words, if your kid plays ECNL-R, they wouldn't be able to guest play on an EDP team in MOST tournaments....for example.
If you play ECNL or ECNL-R for example, you wouldn't be able to play on the 3rd team in the same club who is in EDP or NCSL unless the club created a USYS player pass for you as well.
And no, when you guest play, the club does not get an alert or anything.
I hope I explained that OK. Good luck.
If you decide to double roster, do you disclose to one or both coaches? Is there a requirement to do so? Are coaches generally OK with double rostering provided it doesn’t impact their games and practices are not missed?
There's no requirement but, if you don't disclose and you get caught, someone is going to get pissed off, which can affect your kid's relationship with that coach and/or club. One team should be the priority. Don't forget PARENTS! Parents are going to find out and they usually care the most. Some will be bitter that their kid isn't doing it or whatever or they might think your kid is tired and not giving his best to this team, etc.
Oh one other thing that I forgot....for ECNL, at least at some ages, there are limits to how many kids can be double rostered. I think it's two. So yes, if your kid plays ECNL, then you need to have that talk with the coach.
Anonymous
09/30/2023 06:54
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:When you guest play, you need your player card. Typically the coach / team manager has it and you will need a copy. So they aren’t alerted when you guest play, however they will know when you ask for your player card.
So at some point, you ask the coach and then your admin for a digital copy of your player card. Then you have it. When you guest play, you just forward the digital card to the team manager/coach of the team you are guest playing with. Once you have a digital copy, you don't have to ask for your player card again. You might ask for permission but you don't ever need the physical card.
Anonymous
09/30/2023 01:41
Subject: Re:ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:So there are two overarching soccer organizations. US Club Soccer and US Youth Soccer. Each player can only have one player card/pass from each organization and that player card must be linked to a specific team. Each team belongs to a league and each league belongs to one of these two organizations.
NCSL=USYS
EDP=USYS
ECNL-R=US Club
ECNL=US Club
So, for example, you cannot be rostered on an ECNL team (US Club) and a different club's ECNL-R team (US Club), but you can be double rostered on an EDP team or NCSL team. Once you have a player card, you can guest play...with some limitations. Some tournaments, and I have no idea why, require that if the team entering the tournament is registered in a USYS league (NCSL for example), the guest players must have a USYS player card. If the team entering the tournament is registered with a US Club league (ECNL-R for example), the guest player must have a US Club player card. So in other words, if your kid plays ECNL-R, they wouldn't be able to guest play on an EDP team in MOST tournaments....for example.
If you play ECNL or ECNL-R for example, you wouldn't be able to play on the 3rd team in the same club who is in EDP or NCSL unless the club created a USYS player pass for you as well.
And no, when you guest play, the club does not get an alert or anything.
I hope I explained that OK. Good luck.
If you decide to double roster, do you disclose to one or both coaches? Is there a requirement to do so? Are coaches generally OK with double rostering provided it doesn’t impact their games and practices are not missed?
Anonymous
09/29/2023 23:38
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
When you guest play, you need your player card. Typically the coach / team manager has it and you will need a copy. So they aren’t alerted when you guest play, however they will know when you ask for your player card.
Anonymous
09/29/2023 15:47
Subject: Re:ECNL and ECNL RL
So there are two overarching soccer organizations. US Club Soccer and US Youth Soccer. Each player can only have one player card/pass from each organization and that player card must be linked to a specific team. Each team belongs to a league and each league belongs to one of these two organizations.
NCSL=USYS
EDP=USYS
ECNL-R=US Club
ECNL=US Club
So, for example, you cannot be rostered on an ECNL team (US Club) and a different club's ECNL-R team (US Club), but you can be double rostered on an EDP team or NCSL team. Once you have a player card, you can guest play...with some limitations. Some tournaments, and I have no idea why, require that if the team entering the tournament is registered in a USYS league (NCSL for example), the guest players must have a USYS player card. If the team entering the tournament is registered with a US Club league (ECNL-R for example), the guest player must have a US Club player card. So in other words, if your kid plays ECNL-R, they wouldn't be able to guest play on an EDP team in MOST tournaments....for example.
If you play ECNL or ECNL-R for example, you wouldn't be able to play on the 3rd team in the same club who is in EDP or NCSL unless the club created a USYS player pass for you as well.
And no, when you guest play, the club does not get an alert or anything.
I hope I explained that OK. Good luck.
NCSL=USYS
EDP=USYS
ECNL-R=US Club
ECNL=US Club
So, for example, you cannot be rostered on an ECNL team (US Club) and a different club's ECNL-R team (US Club), but you can be double rostered on an EDP team or NCSL team. Once you have a player card, you can guest play...with some limitations. Some tournaments, and I have no idea why, require that if the team entering the tournament is registered in a USYS league (NCSL for example), the guest players must have a USYS player card. If the team entering the tournament is registered with a US Club league (ECNL-R for example), the guest player must have a US Club player card. So in other words, if your kid plays ECNL-R, they wouldn't be able to guest play on an EDP team in MOST tournaments....for example.
If you play ECNL or ECNL-R for example, you wouldn't be able to play on the 3rd team in the same club who is in EDP or NCSL unless the club created a USYS player pass for you as well.
And no, when you guest play, the club does not get an alert or anything.
I hope I explained that OK. Good luck.
Anonymous
09/29/2023 14:34
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:Can you be rostered with 1 team for ECNL and a different club for ECNL RL? Same goes for when you guest play -- can your home club see when you guest for another club if you use your player card?
Just something I have always been curious about -- i.e. if clubs can tell as I am aware they definitely want you playing only for the original club.
No you cannot.
Anonymous
09/29/2023 13:44
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Anonymous wrote:Can you be rostered with 1 team for ECNL and a different club for ECNL RL? Same goes for when you guest play -- can your home club see when you guest for another club if you use your player card?
Just something I have always been curious about -- i.e. if clubs can tell as I am aware they definitely want you playing only for the original club.
OP - same goes for NCSL or even tournaments?
Anonymous
09/29/2023 13:43
Subject: ECNL and ECNL RL
Can you be rostered with 1 team for ECNL and a different club for ECNL RL? Same goes for when you guest play -- can your home club see when you guest for another club if you use your player card?
Just something I have always been curious about -- i.e. if clubs can tell as I am aware they definitely want you playing only for the original club.
Just something I have always been curious about -- i.e. if clubs can tell as I am aware they definitely want you playing only for the original club.