Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:51
Subject: Re:Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
From the NY Times article linked in DM: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/23/nyregion/victorias-secret-karen-video.html
What a coincidence that just as she established her YouTube channel she ended up being victimized by a real life Karen and how fortunate she was able to capture it all on video to protect herself!
At the time of the July 2021 encounter, Ms. Ukenta had an established online presence and a YouTube channel, where she offered vignettes about gardening, food, overseas travel and cultural events in Newark, where she lives.
She posted the Victoria’s Secret video in installments on several social media sites, and the brief encounter in the Mall at Short Hills in Millburn, one of the wealthiest communities in New Jersey, quickly tapped the internet’s rage.
Ms. Ukenta’s first video, “Karen Goes Crazy Part 1,” was viewed 2.6 million times on YouTube. An unrelated YouTube channel, Public Freakouts Unleashed, ranked it No. 1 in a compilation of the “Top 25 Most Notorious Karen Videos of ALL TIME.”
A GoFundMe campaign Ms. Ukenta created — “Help Me Defend Myself Against Karen” — generated donations of more than $104,000.
What a coincidence that just as she established her YouTube channel she ended up being victimized by a real life Karen and how fortunate she was able to capture it all on video to protect herself!
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:48
Subject: Re:Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:I saw the video taken before this where the white woman chased her around the store shouting “you’re assaulting me!” It was actually nuts. I am on the black woman’s side.
I posted this, wanted to add I watched it when it first happened 2 years ago. It seems the other video has been wiped from the internet. But sales associates had to literally step in so blondie wouldn’t attack her after she chased the woman filming her. This article is very very one sided.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:48
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Whatever disabilities one has, they don't exempt you from civility or consequence. If your mental illness prevents you from being cordial with people in public, then you should refrain from going in public. Or, you accept the consequences of your behavior. I'm tired of people using mental illness as an excuse for crappy behavior.
Behave like you're being filmed at all times, and people would be a lot more decent with one another.
Behave like you're being filmed at all times, and people would be a lot more decent with one another.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:42
Subject: Re:Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:I saw the video taken before this where the white woman chased her around the store shouting “you’re assaulting me!” It was actually nuts. I am on the black woman’s side.
Where is that video? I would like to see it before making a judgment either way.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:40
Subject: Re:Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
I saw the video taken before this where the white woman chased her around the store shouting “you’re assaulting me!” It was actually nuts. I am on the black woman’s side.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:39
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Ew this woman preyed on a mental ill woman for attention and a Go Fund Me? Gross.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:35
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Wow, what a disgusting video. Clearly this woman is in distress and the woman filming her is relentless. Where is the video showing what happened before this?
Discovery
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:34
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Wow, what a disgusting video. Clearly this woman is in distress and the woman filming her is relentless. Where is the video showing what happened before this?
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:33
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
As usual, video starts in the middle with no context and all of the story comes from the narration of the person taking the video, just like CitiBike Karen.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:33
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Says she has mental illness and her disability contributed to her behavior, which was filmed and went viral.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12559355/Victoria-Secret-Karen-abigail-elphick-meltdown-video.html
Interesting twist and a useful reminder that the impulse to film everything and, worse, distribute it in the hope of vigilante justice, is rife with legal risk.
It’s interesting that the article doesn’t mention that the apartment complex where Abigail Elphick lives is for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Her disability was probably obvious to the bystanders.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:19
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What prompted the white woman to approach the black woman and try to slap her camera to get her to stop filming?
The black woman was clearly trying to escalate the situation in an attempt to create a viral Karen situation and a payday.
Apparently it worked! $100k+ via go fund me…for what exactly?
She bullied a mentally ill woman.
I hope the white lady gets relief from the court. Nobody is safe if any person can whip out a camera phone and provoke a response with the goal of going viral and getting a payday. Enough already!
There’s no case as there’s no expectation of privacy while in a public place. Only one person was assaulted and that ain’t Elphick.
Neither was assaulted.
People with disabilities should be protected, not publicly victimized.
Ask yourself if that grown woman recording while clearly trying to escalate would have been within her rights had it been a teenager or someone with Downs Syndrome.
That woman got her payday. What more does she want?
And what does the black community think of this? Are they cool with her equating this to “that’s how black people get killed”? Are they cool with her obvious attempt to provoke an incident to go viral and “get paid”?
So embarrassing.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:11
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:What prompted the white woman to approach the black woman and try to slap her camera to get her to stop filming?
The black woman was clearly trying to escalate the situation in an attempt to create a viral Karen situation and a payday.
Apparently it worked! $100k+ via go fund me…for what exactly?
She bullied a mentally ill woman.
I hope the white lady gets relief from the court. Nobody is safe if any person can whip out a camera phone and provoke a response with the goal of going viral and getting a payday. Enough already!
There’s no case as there’s no expectation of privacy while in a public place. Only one person was assaulted and that ain’t Elphick.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:09
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Coupon for free panties, white women nudged her, and she starts recording her. White women “slaps” her but clearly is trying to slap away the camera. WTAF
Anonymous
09/25/2023 19:04
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
What prompted the white woman to approach the black woman and try to slap her camera to get her to stop filming?
The black woman was clearly trying to escalate the situation in an attempt to create a viral Karen situation and a payday.
Apparently it worked! $100k+ via go fund me…for what exactly?
She bullied a mentally ill woman.
I hope the white lady gets relief from the court. Nobody is safe if any person can whip out a camera phone and provoke a response with the goal of going viral and getting a payday. Enough already!
The black woman was clearly trying to escalate the situation in an attempt to create a viral Karen situation and a payday.
Apparently it worked! $100k+ via go fund me…for what exactly?
She bullied a mentally ill woman.
I hope the white lady gets relief from the court. Nobody is safe if any person can whip out a camera phone and provoke a response with the goal of going viral and getting a payday. Enough already!
Anonymous
09/25/2023 18:52
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Says she has mental illness and her disability contributed to her behavior, which was filmed and went viral.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12559355/Victoria-Secret-Karen-abigail-elphick-meltdown-video.html
Interesting twist and a useful reminder that the impulse to film everything and, worse, distribute it in the hope of vigilante justice, is rife with legal risk.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12559355/Victoria-Secret-Karen-abigail-elphick-meltdown-video.html
Interesting twist and a useful reminder that the impulse to film everything and, worse, distribute it in the hope of vigilante justice, is rife with legal risk.