What it doesn’t make sense is when a team is losing by more than 3 goals and CB and midfielders still don’t get replaced. Like coach never tries a new combination of the core. At least experiment moving players around. Our midfielder plays the full game never gets replaced, our team keeps doing poor job, so sometimes must be wrong with those players the full game.

Our U14 encrl team subs wingers about 50-65% in each half and also does a rotation with midfielders (1 gets rotated with the wingers, one gets rotated at halftime, one gets rotated in the second half winger swap).

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard that any position at any age has a "pattern" for substitution. If your coach is adhering to some position based pattern for substitution I'd think about a new team/coach. Coaching is not done from a playbook its a dynamic decision making process. Injury, exhaustion, poor play, an immediate teaching moment etc etc etc
All good reasons to sub out at any time for any reason not due to some pattern of play or time allotted.

OP here. Should have clarified that the substitution rules for their league do not allow players to be subbed back in after subbing out in either half. They can return at any point in the second half though if they subbed out in the first half.

OP, a 13 year old should be able to play winger the whole time, if they are not injured. If your kid is getting subbed out earlier than you think they should, they likely need to work on cardio AND/OR the coach is hiding them in that position and giving them minimal playing time.

Or, ya know, the coach has other players who also want to play and whom are equally good. Sometimes my kid "starts" and sometimes he is the replacement -- I don't think at 11 years old the starting lineup matters very much; it changes from game to game.

Anonymous wrote:Hmm. That sucks for wingers then. One kid plays center back. Never comes off. Also very few kids want to play defense so coach never subs CBs. Does sub left and right backs.
Other kid is a wing. They sub regularly at U13. A lot of running for those positions as you move to big field. I'd say every 10-15 minutes isn't rare to substitute even less sometimes.

Most coaches we've played with never sub CBs. It has nothing to do with kids not wanting to play that position.

Also, wing is a place where you can "hide" weaker players. They get subbed more often unless they have a ton of speed.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard that any position at any age has a "pattern" for substitution. If your coach is adhering to some position based pattern for substitution I'd think about a new team/coach. Coaching is not done from a playbook its a dynamic decision making process. Injury, exhaustion, poor play, an immediate teaching moment etc etc etc
All good reasons to sub out at any time for any reason not due to some pattern of play or time allotted.

OP here. Should have clarified that the substitution rules for their league do not allow players to be subbed back in after subbing out in either half. They can return at any point in the second half though if they subbed out in the first half.

OP, a 13 year old should be able to play winger the whole time, if they are not injured. If your kid is getting subbed out earlier than you think they should, they likely need to work on cardio AND/OR the coach is hiding them in that position and giving them minimal playing time.

U13 makes them 11-12. And it’s more so that playing an entire half seems like a lot for my kid. Trying to understand the necessary conditioning needed.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never heard that any position at any age has a "pattern" for substitution. If your coach is adhering to some position based pattern for substitution I'd think about a new team/coach. Coaching is not done from a playbook its a dynamic decision making process. Injury, exhaustion, poor play, an immediate teaching moment etc etc etc
All good reasons to sub out at any time for any reason not due to some pattern of play or time allotted.

OP here. Should have clarified that the substitution rules for their league do not allow players to be subbed back in after subbing out in either half. They can return at any point in the second half though if they subbed out in the first half.

OP, a 13 year old should be able to play winger the whole time, if they are not injured. If your kid is getting subbed out earlier than you think they should, they likely need to work on cardio AND/OR the coach is hiding them in that position and giving them minimal playing time.

Center backs usually play the entire game, and often outside backs too.

Wings/strikers/mids generally have two strings. Sometimes the kids will start and play majority of first half. Then, the 2nd group will come in end of first half but start the 2nd half--coming out closer to the end.

This is how it has been on most of my kids' teams in U13-16.

At that age they should be playing all the positions. Most of those kids won't be playing soccer in 3 years anyway.

My kid starts on the wing and usually get subbed out between 15-20 minutes into each half. Usually goes back in for last 5-8 minutes.

Depend on the team and depend on the players and the benched players. ECNL teams I’ve seen - most positions get subbed out when there’s 2-10 mins left in each half depend on how competitive the game is. More often than not, usually when 2-5 mins left in the games. If game isn’t as competitive - I’ve seen players get subbed at each half including CBs.

I’ve seen strikers/ wings play entire game along with CBs numerous time as well.

It’s not really few kids want to play defense so defenders don’t get subbed much - it’s what the team look like and the what’s the competition look like.

My u15 switched from playing striker to CB. U have to be able to play in whichever position coach put u in.

Hmm. That sucks for wingers then. One kid plays center back. Never comes off. Also very few kids want to play defense so coach never subs CBs. Does sub left and right backs.
Other kid is a wing. They sub regularly at U13. A lot of running for those positions as you move to big field. I'd say every 10-15 minutes isn't rare to substitute even less sometimes.

Anonymous wrote:I've never heard that any position at any age has a "pattern" for substitution. If your coach is adhering to some position based pattern for substitution I'd think about a new team/coach. Coaching is not done from a playbook its a dynamic decision making process. Injury, exhaustion, poor play, an immediate teaching moment etc etc etc
All good reasons to sub out at any time for any reason not due to some pattern of play or time allotted.

OP here. Should have clarified that the substitution rules for their league do not allow players to be subbed back in after subbing out in either half. They can return at any point in the second half though if they subbed out in the first half.

I think the OP is asking if certain positions tend to get subbed out more often due to the demands of the position. In my experience, I would say wing players (7 and 11) get subbed out more than any other position due to the amount of running/sprinting involved.

I've never heard that any position at any age has a "pattern" for substitution. If your coach is adhering to some position based pattern for substitution I'd think about a new team/coach. Coaching is not done from a playbook its a dynamic decision making process. Injury, exhaustion, poor play, an immediate teaching moment etc etc etc
All good reasons to sub out at any time for any reason not due to some pattern of play or time allotted.

Wondering what the typical substitution pattern looks like for wingers at u13. All else being equal, how often do wingers play entire halves or do they usually get subbed out? At what point in the half compared to other positions?