I'm fine with having the option, and I much prefer clicking "no" to saying "no" so that's not so bad. What bothers me is when the options are crazy. If I go and get something from a counter, and it comes to $41.21 or something, I would love these options:

Round up: $.79
5%: $2.06
10%: $4.12

OR:

$1
$2
$3
$4
$5

I would do this every time. Instead it's:

15% - $6.18
20% - $8.24
25% - $10.30

Who on earth is tipping SIX DOLLARS to someone who literally just hands you something, and is absolutely getting at least the full minimum wage (not the tipped minimum)? And who is serving a new group every 3 minutes? And I mean 25%? That's what a good tipper tips at a full service restaurants. For a while, I was doing "custom" and choosing $1, but now, honestly, when they give me those crazy numbers, I just hit no.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not "pandemic" related; it's enshittification due to modern technology infecting payments.

True. But this experience involved the person asking if I wanted to add a tip. There was no iPad involved.

I would be completely comfortable looking that person in the eye and saying, “No, this is not a service transaction that merits a gratuity.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not "pandemic" related; it's enshittification due to modern technology infecting payments.

It's also the enshittification of self-respect in america. If you have self-respect, you won't beg or extort. What's happening is shameless mix of the two.

Here's an example of how pervasive this loss (or lack) of self-respect is. A tree in front of a neighbor's house fell down. It was outside their house on community. The HOA took care of it by planting a new tree. Obviously it would take a few years for the tree to grow and provide the level of cover the previous tree provided. The dude had the audacity to send out a note to everyone asking for donations so he could plant more trees in that spot to provide the privacy cover he lost! He did not want to see the road from his porch and thought it was appropriate to beg his neighbors to chip in to provide that cover! If someone living in a million dollar house can do this, I'm not surprised that a pimply kid at a yogurt shop wants extra money that he did not earn. It's all cultural I suppose.. where i come from, you tip someone who's 'beneath' you and I'd never want to be in a situation of receiving tips.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not "pandemic" related; it's enshittification due to modern technology infecting payments.

True. But this experience involved the person asking if I wanted to add a tip. There was no iPad involved.

Learn to say "no". That skill will come in handy moving forward. It was uncomfortable first but I have gotten used to it.

Anonymous wrote:It's not "pandemic" related; it's enshittification due to modern technology infecting payments.

It's also the enshittification of self-respect in america. If you have self-respect, you won't beg or extort. What's happening is shameless mix of the two.

I’ll tip on takeout from a regular restaurant.

I got ice cream from Tutti Frutti over the weekend though and literally did it all myself. The ice cream and all the toppings. It’s a self serve model. When I used my card it took me to a tip screen. I pressed no but felt some guilt and wish I didn’t.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. It's one of many aspects of society that are just a *little* bit more annoying and expensive since Covid. But when you add them all up, everything is much worse. Death by a thousand cuts.

Also, I'm also someone who always tipped on carry-out pre-covid, and I've worked in food service and always try to be a good customer and to tip well because I know what those jobs are like. I'd be the one dropping extra cash if I thought my dining companion under-tipped.

But I've done a 180. Service is worse, prices are higher, and I've had servers explicitly tell me things like "our best customers leave tips on top of the service fee" or "a 20% tip is standard." It's miserable. We barely dine out anymore. Let someone else deal with this BS.

Yes. It's one of many aspects of society that are just a *little* bit more annoying and expensive since Covid. But when you add them all up, everything is much worse. Death by a thousand cuts.

Yep. I don’t tip on takeout. Tip creep is real. I’m also not tipping on a 6 dollar latte at Starbucks.

We tip generously at restaurants. We tip people throughout the resort on vacation who lug our bags and strollers in and out of the car and to the rooms. I tip the hairstylists.

Tipping at my kids preschools has also gotten out of control at holidays, teacher appreciation week and end of year- PLUS we have a dedicated line item for it on tuition and then are ancouraged to give more. Just charge me an all inclusive number and be done with it. I don’t have time for the mental gymantics and I’d rather just know upfront what I can and can’t afford.

I just say or click no. Once you've done it a few times it gets easier. I only tip on waiter service. I don't get food delivered. Its a clear line for me.

Anonymous wrote:It's not "pandemic" related; it's enshittification due to modern technology infecting payments.

True. But this experience involved the person asking if I wanted to add a tip. There was no iPad involved.

It is definitely out of control. Just say no! My most refreshing experience recently was buying a granola bar from a little gift shop and cashier saying "ok, just ignore the next screen and then sign after that." The next screen he was referring to was the tip screen.

It's not "pandemic" related; it's enshittification due to modern technology infecting payments.

There have been approximately one million posts about this already in the past few months.

When we could no longer go into restaurants due to COVID, I tipped on carryout. I was generous with these tips.

But now, the idea of tipping has expanded to include even ordering bread at a bakery counter. I've just paid for $6 loaves of bread and then the person asked if I want to add a tip to the card.

I think what I mind the most is being asked if I want to add a tip or being asked to "just answer two questions on the iPad" (one question is how much tip I want to pay). It feels like a bit of a shakedown.

Previously, we'd add a tip to the jar, so maybe I have to get over this and just deal with it. Ugh.

What do you think? Does this feel reasonable or does it feel off to you?