Anonymous
09/13/2023 14:38
Subject: Path after compacted math
My kid did compacted 4/5 during the pandemic in 20-21 so missed a lot of fundamentals. He then did compacted 5/6 in 21-22, and they never caught up on the 4/5 fundamentals missed.
Last year in 6th grade, we put him in 6+ vs. AIM and it was the right choice. This year he's in 7+ and is asking if he could be accelerated but I don't think his scores will support it. I'm happy with him doing algebra in 8th, though.
Last year in 6th grade, we put him in 6+ vs. AIM and it was the right choice. This year he's in 7+ and is asking if he could be accelerated but I don't think his scores will support it. I'm happy with him doing algebra in 8th, though.
Anonymous
09/13/2023 14:26
Subject: Path after compacted math
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's hard to get on an offramp. Around the class of 2025 MCPS started accelerating the majority of the kids. Now many are struggling in pre-calc and calculus and having to get tutors to keep up.
Officially, MCPS offers off-ramps every year in middle school, and allows repeating 8th grade Alg1/Geom/Alg2 in 9th, and allows course retakes in hight school, and offers 2-year Algebra 2, as well as 2 levels of Stats and 3 levels of Calculus 1.
The main "problem" with the pathways is that a student might switch from Honors one year to non-Honors the next, instead of doing both Honors but a year later, which slightly decreases weighted GPA.
Do you know someone who requested an off-ramp and get rejected?
What I see is kids that stayed on the ramp all through MS and now in HS there is little option other than taking a non-honors class which affects weighted GPA as you mentioned.
There are many parents pushing their kids to be in the highest class possible in MS without thinking of the long term impacts. Clearly some kids belong on this path and some don't.
Anonymous
09/13/2023 14:18
Subject: Path after compacted math
Anonymous wrote:It's hard to get on an offramp. Around the class of 2025 MCPS started accelerating the majority of the kids. Now many are struggling in pre-calc and calculus and having to get tutors to keep up.
Officially, MCPS offers off-ramps every year in middle school, and allows repeating 8th grade Alg1/Geom/Alg2 in 9th, and allows course retakes in hight school, and offers 2-year Algebra 2, as well as 2 levels of Stats and 3 levels of Calculus 1.
The main "problem" with the pathways is that a student might switch from Honors one year to non-Honors the next, instead of doing both Honors but a year later, which slightly decreases weighted GPA.
Do you know someone who requested an off-ramp and get rejected?
Anonymous
09/13/2023 14:14
Subject: Path after compacted math
Anonymous wrote:Echoing the above, to down-shift in 6th grade after Math 5/6 in 5th, take one of:
Math 7 -- a year ahead, but only a year's worth of curricular content, and neither omits nor repeats content from the overall curriculum, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (Math 8) and 8th (Algebra 1). This is a good option if the student absorbed the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content well enough, but didn't like the faster pace.
AMP6+ -- will repeat 6th-grade content and then half of 7th-grade content, delivered with the same pace as the ES Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 courses, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (AMP7+), then delivering Algebra 1 in 8th (there is no accelerated Algebra 1 course, itself, it's just a matter of when a student reaches it). This is an option if the student had some trouble absorbing the Math 5/6 content, but wants to get to new content within the year.
Math 6 -- returns the student to the base curricular pathway, repeating the 6th-grade content at a less strenuous pace, leading to Math 7, Math 8 and Algebra 1 in 7th, 8th & 9th grades, reapectively. This is a good option if the student had considerable trouble absorbing the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content at the pace delivered. If considering this as a likely choice at this point of the year, one might ask the ES to down-shift the student, now, by moving them from Math 5/6 to Math 5.
There are still other options, but these make the most sense given the OP's description. Talk to your teacher, school Math specialist and, perhaps, the Math 4/5 teacher (to get feedback on the student's experience last year/figure whether they think things might change as the student gets back into the swing of things/gets used to the new teacher).
Do 6th graders take Math 7? It seems logical but maybe not enough students to make it worth while. I thought that this path would be Math 6+ then 7+ (then Algebra).
ES Math 5/6 is Eureka, but MS Math 6 is Illustrative, so it's a different ordering of topics from Compacted. Doing Math 6+/7+ covers all of Illustrative 6-8 in 2 years, which may be more coherent than switching from Eureka 6 to Illustrative 7.
It's not a big deal either way, though.
Anonymous
09/13/2023 14:08
Subject: Path after compacted math
Anonymous wrote:Echoing the above, to down-shift in 6th grade after Math 5/6 in 5th, take one of:
Math 7 -- a year ahead, but only a year's worth of curricular content, and neither omits nor repeats content from the overall curriculum, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (Math 8) and 8th (Algebra 1). This is a good option if the student absorbed the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content well enough, but didn't like the faster pace.
AMP6+ -- will repeat 6th-grade content and then half of 7th-grade content, delivered with the same pace as the ES Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 courses, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (AMP7+), then delivering Algebra 1 in 8th (there is no accelerated Algebra 1 course, itself, it's just a matter of when a student reaches it). This is an option if the student had some trouble absorbing the Math 5/6 content, but wants to get to new content within the year.
Math 6 -- returns the student to the base curricular pathway, repeating the 6th-grade content at a less strenuous pace, leading to Math 7, Math 8 and Algebra 1 in 7th, 8th & 9th grades, reapectively. This is a good option if the student had considerable trouble absorbing the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content at the pace delivered. If considering this as a likely choice at this point of the year, one might ask the ES to down-shift the student, now, by moving them from Math 5/6 to Math 5.
There are still other options, but these make the most sense given the OP's description. Talk to your teacher, school Math specialist and, perhaps, the Math 4/5 teacher (to get feedback on the student's experience last year/figure whether they think things might change as the student gets back into the swing of things/gets used to the new teacher).
Extremely helpful, thank you!
Anonymous
09/13/2023 14:08
Subject: Path after compacted math
It's hard to get on an offramp. Around the class of 2025 MCPS started accelerating the majority of the kids. Now many are struggling in pre-calc and calculus and having to get tutors to keep up.
Anonymous
09/13/2023 14:00
Subject: Path after compacted math
Echoing the above, to down-shift in 6th grade after Math 5/6 in 5th, take one of:
Math 7 -- a year ahead, but only a year's worth of curricular content, and neither omits nor repeats content from the overall curriculum, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (Math 8) and 8th (Algebra 1). This is a good option if the student absorbed the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content well enough, but didn't like the faster pace.
AMP6+ -- will repeat 6th-grade content and then half of 7th-grade content, delivered with the same pace as the ES Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 courses, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (AMP7+), then delivering Algebra 1 in 8th (there is no accelerated Algebra 1 course, itself, it's just a matter of when a student reaches it). This is an option if the student had some trouble absorbing the Math 5/6 content, but wants to get to new content within the year.
Math 6 -- returns the student to the base curricular pathway, repeating the 6th-grade content at a less strenuous pace, leading to Math 7, Math 8 and Algebra 1 in 7th, 8th & 9th grades, reapectively. This is a good option if the student had considerable trouble absorbing the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content at the pace delivered. If considering this as a likely choice at this point of the year, one might ask the ES to down-shift the student, now, by moving them from Math 5/6 to Math 5.
There are still other options, but these make the most sense given the OP's description. Talk to your teacher, school Math specialist and, perhaps, the Math 4/5 teacher (to get feedback on the student's experience last year/figure whether they think things might change as the student gets back into the swing of things/gets used to the new teacher).
Math 7 -- a year ahead, but only a year's worth of curricular content, and neither omits nor repeats content from the overall curriculum, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (Math 8) and 8th (Algebra 1). This is a good option if the student absorbed the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content well enough, but didn't like the faster pace.
AMP6+ -- will repeat 6th-grade content and then half of 7th-grade content, delivered with the same pace as the ES Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 courses, typically leading to the same pace in 7th (AMP7+), then delivering Algebra 1 in 8th (there is no accelerated Algebra 1 course, itself, it's just a matter of when a student reaches it). This is an option if the student had some trouble absorbing the Math 5/6 content, but wants to get to new content within the year.
Math 6 -- returns the student to the base curricular pathway, repeating the 6th-grade content at a less strenuous pace, leading to Math 7, Math 8 and Algebra 1 in 7th, 8th & 9th grades, reapectively. This is a good option if the student had considerable trouble absorbing the Math 4/5 & Math 5/6 content at the pace delivered. If considering this as a likely choice at this point of the year, one might ask the ES to down-shift the student, now, by moving them from Math 5/6 to Math 5.
There are still other options, but these make the most sense given the OP's description. Talk to your teacher, school Math specialist and, perhaps, the Math 4/5 teacher (to get feedback on the student's experience last year/figure whether they think things might change as the student gets back into the swing of things/gets used to the new teacher).
Anonymous
09/13/2023 13:15
Subject: Path after compacted math
But Montgomery County Maryland is basically the same. You take 0-3 years of middle school pre-algebra until you exit to Algebra 1. You never are forced to leave pre-algebra until high school.
Anonymous
09/13/2023 13:13
Subject: Path after compacted math
Oops that's the wrong Montgomery County!
Anonymous
09/13/2023 13:11
Subject: Path after compacted math
Anonymous wrote:https://cdnsm5-ss7.sharpschool.com/UserFiles/Servers/Server_92164/File/MCPS%20MS%20Program%20of%20Studies%202023-24.pdf
Page 20 has a chart.
Note that this document is from Montgomery County, Virginia, not MCPS in Maryland.
Anonymous
09/13/2023 13:11
Subject: Re:Path after compacted math
Anonymous
09/13/2023 13:09
Subject: Path after compacted math
Anonymous
09/13/2023 13:05
Subject: Path after compacted math
AIM and 7+ (for 6th graders) are basically the same, logistically (but the material covered isn't the same). There is a curriculum shuffle happening now.
Anonymous
09/13/2023 12:16
Subject: Re:Path after compacted math
There can be some variation by school, but these are the typical options: Math 6, AMP 6+, or AMP 7+
Anonymous
09/13/2023 12:12
Subject: Path after compacted math
DC1 took compacted math in ES and is fine with Algebra, Geometry etc. DC2 also in ES compacted math but I am wondering if there is an "off ramp" to the acceleration, I have a hard time seeing DC2 keeping up the same pace in math as DC1, now that I see the demands of the higher level courses. I've tried searching but DC1 took AIM after compacted. Is the alternative 6+?