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Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a Stanford team as stacked as they've been talent wise over the last 10 years (if not for injuries to Macario and Davidson, team USA might as well have worn Stanford kits). I don't recall Georgetown ever really producing many international players. The second game of a road swing starting at 9am PT is especially tough to judge Stanford.

The NWSL needs to make some real money or college soccer will be the only route. They can't run viable academies without profit and financial upside for clubs and players. They already require so much help with the national team players.

That goal was NICE though. You'll be seeing her in the future: https://twitter.com/ChrisLaPuma/status/1701402053384520041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1701402053384520041%7Ctwgr%5Edb55758a2c1d3cedd8cf78757abf8b91343bb248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthecardboard.org%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D24310page%3D2

Not a good Stanford team? They KILLED Duke! You know, Duke, the supposed wsoccer powerhouse.
Welcome to the ACC Stanford!!!

Duke always has one incredible player supported by a bunch of good players. Not the recipe for a national championship with all the subbing in college soccer...NCAA need to go to the 5 sub rule and extra time etc. The running clock and constant subbing is ancient and needs to end.

UNC is close to winning it every year and coach is worshipped because he subs 10 players and comes at the other team in waves all game long...more depth and takes full advantage of the subbing rules.

Lots of schools could learn from UNC...most schools NEVER sub. or Rarely sub.
I think it's safe to say Michelle Cooper carried Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a Stanford team as stacked as they've been talent wise over the last 10 years (if not for injuries to Macario and Davidson, team USA might as well have worn Stanford kits). I don't recall Georgetown ever really producing many international players. The second game of a road swing starting at 9am PT is especially tough to judge Stanford.

The NWSL needs to make some real money or college soccer will be the only route. They can't run viable academies without profit and financial upside for clubs and players. They already require so much help with the national team players.

That goal was NICE though. You'll be seeing her in the future: https://twitter.com/ChrisLaPuma/status/1701402053384520041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1701402053384520041%7Ctwgr%5Edb55758a2c1d3cedd8cf78757abf8b91343bb248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthecardboard.org%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D24310page%3D2

Not a good Stanford team? They KILLED Duke! You know, Duke, the supposed wsoccer powerhouse.
Welcome to the ACC Stanford!!!

Duke always has one incredible player supported by a bunch of good players. Not the recipe for a national championship with all the subbing in college soccer...NCAA need to go to the 5 sub rule and extra time etc. The running clock and constant subbing is ancient and needs to end.

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a Stanford team as stacked as they've been talent wise over the last 10 years (if not for injuries to Macario and Davidson, team USA might as well have worn Stanford kits). I don't recall Georgetown ever really producing many international players. The second game of a road swing starting at 9am PT is especially tough to judge Stanford.

The NWSL needs to make some real money or college soccer will be the only route. They can't run viable academies without profit and financial upside for clubs and players. They already require so much help with the national team players.

That goal was NICE though. You'll be seeing her in the future: https://twitter.com/ChrisLaPuma/status/1701402053384520041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1701402053384520041%7Ctwgr%5Edb55758a2c1d3cedd8cf78757abf8b91343bb248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthecardboard.org%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D24310page%3D2

Not a good Stanford team? They KILLED Duke! You know, Duke, the supposed wsoccer powerhouse.
Welcome to the ACC Stanford!!!

Duke always has one incredible player supported by a bunch of good players. Not the recipe for a national championship with all the subbing in college soccer...NCAA need to go to the 5 sub rule and extra time etc. The running clock and constant subbing is ancient and needs to end.

UNC is close to winning it every year and coach is worshipped because he subs 10 players and comes at the other team in waves all game long...more depth and takes full advantage of the subbing rules.

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a Stanford team as stacked as they've been talent wise over the last 10 years (if not for injuries to Macario and Davidson, team USA might as well have worn Stanford kits). I don't recall Georgetown ever really producing many international players. The second game of a road swing starting at 9am PT is especially tough to judge Stanford.

The NWSL needs to make some real money or college soccer will be the only route. They can't run viable academies without profit and financial upside for clubs and players. They already require so much help with the national team players.

That goal was NICE though. You'll be seeing her in the future: https://twitter.com/ChrisLaPuma/status/1701402053384520041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1701402053384520041%7Ctwgr%5Edb55758a2c1d3cedd8cf78757abf8b91343bb248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthecardboard.org%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D24310page%3D2

Not a good Stanford team? They KILLED Duke! You know, Duke, the supposed wsoccer powerhouse.
Welcome to the ACC Stanford!!!

Duke always has one incredible player supported by a bunch of good players. Not the recipe for a national championship with all the subbing in college soccer...NCAA need to go to the 5 sub rule and extra time etc. The running clock and constant subbing is ancient and needs to end.

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Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a Stanford team as stacked as they've been talent wise over the last 10 years (if not for injuries to Macario and Davidson, team USA might as well have worn Stanford kits). I don't recall Georgetown ever really producing many international players. The second game of a road swing starting at 9am PT is especially tough to judge Stanford.

The NWSL needs to make some real money or college soccer will be the only route. They can't run viable academies without profit and financial upside for clubs and players. They already require so much help with the national team players.

That goal was NICE though. You'll be seeing her in the future: https://twitter.com/ChrisLaPuma/status/1701402053384520041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1701402053384520041%7Ctwgr%5Edb55758a2c1d3cedd8cf78757abf8b91343bb248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthecardboard.org%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D24310page%3D2

Not a good Stanford team? They KILLED Duke! You know, Duke, the supposed wsoccer powerhouse.
Welcome to the ACC Stanford!!!

Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a Stanford team as stacked as they've been talent wise over the last 10 years (if not for injuries to Macario and Davidson, team USA might as well have worn Stanford kits). I don't recall Georgetown ever really producing many international players. The second game of a road swing starting at 9am PT is especially tough to judge Stanford.

The NWSL needs to make some real money or college soccer will be the only route. They can't run viable academies without profit and financial upside for clubs and players. They already require so much help with the national team players.

That goal was NICE though. You'll be seeing her in the future: https://twitter.com/ChrisLaPuma/status/1701402053384520041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1701402053384520041%7Ctwgr%5Edb55758a2c1d3cedd8cf78757abf8b91343bb248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthecardboard.org%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D24310page%3D2

Anonymous wrote:This wasn't a Stanford team as stacked as they've been talent wise over the last 10 years (if not for injuries to Macario and Davidson, team USA might as well have worn Stanford kits). I don't recall Georgetown ever really producing many international players. The second game of a road swing starting at 9am PT is especially tough to judge Stanford.

The NWSL needs to make some real money or college soccer will be the only route. They can't run viable academies without profit and financial upside for clubs and players. They already require so much help with the national team players.

That goal was NICE though. You'll be seeing her in the future: https://twitter.com/ChrisLaPuma/status/1701402053384520041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1701402053384520041%7Ctwgr%5Edb55758a2c1d3cedd8cf78757abf8b91343bb248%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthecardboard.org%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ftid%3D24310page%3D2

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Anonymous wrote:So Stanford was #2 and Georgetown #13. Georgetown had the run of play and maybe could have had 1 or 2 goals more. Watching the game I think most would predict a 2-1 or 1-0 Georgetown win. A Georgetown player gave up a free kick outside of the box late in the game and the Stanford player put a nice bending ball in for a 1 -1 tie. That’s how it ended.

Before the game I thought it would be a fairly high level soccer game. There were a few players who stood out(#8 for Georgetown former Union/McLean as midfielder) but over all the speed of play was slow, there was a lot of time and space in the final 1/3(even around the box), whiffs on open crosses, passes going out of bounds with no pressure, etc. I know it’s not professional but this was two top 10(this weeks ranking) teams playing. I was hoping for a bit more.

I walked away with doubts that college soccer is the answer to competing with what was on display at this last World Cup.

This country is wrestling with an idea that no one really wants to say out loud, because it would call for a seismic shift in the way we do things. But, I think we have to at least ask ourselves does the college sports model work anymore as it relates to developing our nation's best players in any given sport? I actually think most of us know the answer, but again, don't want to say it out loud. No one else cares about college sports the same we do, but we've poured sooooo much money into it. "College" football is in the midst of breaking away from the NCAA and shedding any myth of amateurism. Look at the NBA -- how many players come from college basketball anymore? There's an increasing number of players drafted from Europe who went through their youth systems. European countries have always produced better mens soccer players through their clubs, and now that there's financial incentives in the womens' game, clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea and Bayern Munich are all starting to add their collective resources to developing girls/women. Any coincidence that the WWC final featured the two countries with arguably the most robust women's clubs? What would you want for your daughter if soccer was the final goal -- play for a D1 school or go to the Barcelona youth academy?

We're also holding on to the well-roundedness factor, which I get. Can't tell you how many parents I know who want their daughters to play sports, excel at STEM, be confident and emotionally balanced, and go to an Ivy League school or top state school. I probably want that too for my individual daughters. But for the good of the national team product, is that the wisest way to field a team to go against players who have been developed in a completely different environment?

With so few people still making very good money in women's soccer, I actually expect more good international players to come to the US for college, which will improve the college game, at least in the short-to-medium terms.
You need to be an Alyssa Thompson level talent with knowledge that you'll be in the senior national team pool for skipping college to be a good idea now.
The financial incentives you mention are so limited and concentrated at this point that unless she is a phenom, I'd probably want her to come back from Spain for college.
Also, France didn't exactly do great this summer and their clubs are especially well respected for women. Lyon regularly has the world's most impressive roster and PSG is no slouch and has had Americans too.

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Anonymous wrote:So Stanford was #2 and Georgetown #13. Georgetown had the run of play and maybe could have had 1 or 2 goals more. Watching the game I think most would predict a 2-1 or 1-0 Georgetown win. A Georgetown player gave up a free kick outside of the box late in the game and the Stanford player put a nice bending ball in for a 1 -1 tie. That’s how it ended.

Before the game I thought it would be a fairly high level soccer game. There were a few players who stood out(#8 for Georgetown former Union/McLean as midfielder) but over all the speed of play was slow, there was a lot of time and space in the final 1/3(even around the box), whiffs on open crosses, passes going out of bounds with no pressure, etc. I know it’s not professional but this was two top 10(this weeks ranking) teams playing. I was hoping for a bit more.

I walked away with doubts that college soccer is the answer to competing with what was on display at this last World Cup.

This country is wrestling with an idea that no one really wants to say out loud, because it would call for a seismic shift in the way we do things. But, I think we have to at least ask ourselves does the college sports model work anymore as it relates to developing our nation's best players in any given sport? I actually think most of us know the answer, but again, don't want to say it out loud. No one else cares about college sports the same we do, but we've poured sooooo much money into it. "College" football is in the midst of breaking away from the NCAA and shedding any myth of amateurism. Look at the NBA -- how many players come from college basketball anymore? There's an increasing number of players drafted from Europe who went through their youth systems. European countries have always produced better mens soccer players through their clubs, and now that there's financial incentives in the womens' game, clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea and Bayern Munich are all starting to add their collective resources to developing girls/women. Any coincidence that the WWC final featured the two countries with arguably the most robust women's clubs? What would you want for your daughter if soccer was the final goal -- play for a D1 school or go to the Barcelona youth academy?

We're also holding on to the well-roundedness factor, which I get. Can't tell you how many parents I know who want their daughters to play sports, excel at STEM, be confident and emotionally balanced, and go to an Ivy League school or top state school. I probably want that too for my individual daughters. But for the good of the national team product, is that the wisest way to field a team to go against players who have been developed in a completely different environment?

Anonymous wrote:So Stanford was #2 and Georgetown #13. Georgetown had the run of play and maybe could have had 1 or 2 goals more. Watching the game I think most would predict a 2-1 or 1-0 Georgetown win. A Georgetown player gave up a free kick outside of the box late in the game and the Stanford player put a nice bending ball in for a 1 -1 tie. That’s how it ended.

Before the game I thought it would be a fairly high level soccer game. There were a few players who stood out(#8 for Georgetown former Union/McLean as midfielder) but over all the speed of play was slow, there was a lot of time and space in the final 1/3(even around the box), whiffs on open crosses, passes going out of bounds with no pressure, etc. I know it’s not professional but this was two top 10(this weeks ranking) teams playing. I was hoping for a bit more.

I walked away with doubts that college soccer is the answer to competing with what was on display at this last World Cup.

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about why you thought college soccer was ever going to be “the answer” or even “an answer” to ensuring the US women can remain competitive at the World Cup? It was a better training environment than women in other countries had access to until the last decade or so, but isn’t it obvious that the training methods for the men (and finally now some of the women) in soccer powerhouse countries is vastly superior to what any college could ever produce?