Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 19:40     Subject: Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember someone saying kids are supposed to get 3-4 days notice for a test in high school or at least a weekend.

My son had four tests one day and two tests the next day. He wasn’t given much time to prepare for these exams and I’m wondering if he can speak to teachers about giving more notice. Having a weekend really helps him since he just takes longer to read, take notes and study.

He has severe ADHD, vision issues and processing issues (yes he has a 504) so this is very stressful when tests with lots of content are sprung on him with 1-2 days notice.

Anyone ever address this issue?
The teacher who really piled it on said my son needed to justify why he couldn’t prepare in two days. Honestly, it was a lot. I’d struggle to master that even if it’s the only work I had.

We are 9 days into the school year. No one is giving "tests" (summative assessments for an entire unit that can't be retaken) at this point, much less 6 different teachers. They certainly aren't giving "exams" which cover multiple units of material for an entire course. It sounds more like your DS had quizzes, which would cover 1-2 weeks of material. No, teachers don't need to give more than a day or two advanced warning (and there can be no warning - "pop quiz", but best practice would be that it is retakable). Quizzes are supposed to be a check point so both the student and the teacher know where they stand on content so far. Often quizzes are retakable (depends on the course, teacher, and timing in the quarter) and this should be made clear at the time of the quiz. Actual tests are definitely given more than a day or two notice. They typically come with a review day. If your son is not sure about when his teachers are aiming for the first test, he should ask when they will be and if he can get a review guide or summary of what to study several days in advance.

You should have a conversation with your DS about staying on top of daily assignments and studying a little every night so that he doesn't need an entire weekend to catch up in preparation for a quiz. If he is in multiple AP classes and cannot keep up with the pace of the work, then he should consider dropping back to Honors in some classes with a high reading load. If he already feels behind after 2 weeks of school, it's just going to get worse.

-HS teacher


You sound awful. Do you think I'm lying about him having 6 tests? How would that help me get advice if I'm not telling the truth. He's up until 1am studying and completing homework. Please stop being so nasty that he's blowing off his work. He's not.
I could restate the issue but you don't seem like you want to be helpful. No they were not pop quizzes and not all retakable. I can assure you that most people would struggle to absorb that much material over 1-2 days for this one class. He's managing fine in all classes except this one where she just dumped way too much on them last minute. My son wasn't the only one complaining and I think she was unfair to all students - not just my son. I take issue with her asking him to justify his 504 though. Some teachers can't or won't help with 504 plans and she might be one of them.

I appreciate the other responses. We clearly need to update his 504. He has only asked for an extension on a test once before in an AP class that had a heavy workload. Typically his teachers understand and we don't like to ask for extra time because he will just be putting off the inevitable.

I don't think you are lying. I think your student is misunderstanding/misrepresenting what is actually happening. My students call everything a "test" - exit cards to check for understanding, retakeable quizzes, assignments done in Canvas - all sorts of things that are not tests at all. Instead of being instantly indignant about my reply, which someone else also thought was useful, how about stopping and thinking that maybe there is information you hadn't considered.

Your original post implied that all 6 assessments were unannounced and required a lot of studying, with one teacher being extra difficult. Your reply now seems to imply that it was really only this one teacher that there was a lot of new material in the past couple of days. If that had been clearer in your OP, you would have gotten different advice.

However, assuming you still want some suggestions, why don't you post the courses that your son is taking and which one has the teacher you are concerned about? You will likely be able to get a better sense of what those assessments actually were and what pace to expect from some of those courses.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 16:40     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1-2 day’s notice is enough. Most students know when it is coming since they are wrapping up a unit or book.


Yes, for neurotypical kids you are correct. OP’s kid is not neurotypical.


But these days that's pretty much every kid who's parents could afford a diagnosis.


I would love to know what percentage of kids have an IEP/504 in, let’s say, Whitman vs Wheaton HS. Or even Blair.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 16:20     Subject: Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember someone saying kids are supposed to get 3-4 days notice for a test in high school or at least a weekend.

My son had four tests one day and two tests the next day. He wasn’t given much time to prepare for these exams and I’m wondering if he can speak to teachers about giving more notice. Having a weekend really helps him since he just takes longer to read, take notes and study.

He has severe ADHD, vision issues and processing issues (yes he has a 504) so this is very stressful when tests with lots of content are sprung on him with 1-2 days notice.

Anyone ever address this issue?
The teacher who really piled it on said my son needed to justify why he couldn’t prepare in two days. Honestly, it was a lot. I’d struggle to master that even if it’s the only work I had.

We are 9 days into the school year. No one is giving "tests" (summative assessments for an entire unit that can't be retaken) at this point, much less 6 different teachers. They certainly aren't giving "exams" which cover multiple units of material for an entire course. It sounds more like your DS had quizzes, which would cover 1-2 weeks of material. No, teachers don't need to give more than a day or two advanced warning (and there can be no warning - "pop quiz", but best practice would be that it is retakable). Quizzes are supposed to be a check point so both the student and the teacher know where they stand on content so far. Often quizzes are retakable (depends on the course, teacher, and timing in the quarter) and this should be made clear at the time of the quiz. Actual tests are definitely given more than a day or two notice. They typically come with a review day. If your son is not sure about when his teachers are aiming for the first test, he should ask when they will be and if he can get a review guide or summary of what to study several days in advance.

You should have a conversation with your DS about staying on top of daily assignments and studying a little every night so that he doesn't need an entire weekend to catch up in preparation for a quiz. If he is in multiple AP classes and cannot keep up with the pace of the work, then he should consider dropping back to Honors in some classes with a high reading load. If he already feels behind after 2 weeks of school, it's just going to get worse.

-HS teacher


You sound awful. Do you think I'm lying about him having 6 tests? How would that help me get advice if I'm not telling the truth. He's up until 1am studying and completing homework. Please stop being so nasty that he's blowing off his work. He's not.
I could restate the issue but you don't seem like you want to be helpful. No they were not pop quizzes and not all retakable. I can assure you that most people would struggle to absorb that much material over 1-2 days for this one class. He's managing fine in all classes except this one where she just dumped way too much on them last minute. My son wasn't the only one complaining and I think she was unfair to all students - not just my son. I take issue with her asking him to justify his 504 though. Some teachers can't or won't help with 504 plans and she might be one of them.

I appreciate the other responses. We clearly need to update his 504. He has only asked for an extension on a test once before in an AP class that had a heavy workload. Typically his teachers understand and we don't like to ask for extra time because he will just be putting off the inevitable.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 15:59     Subject: Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember someone saying kids are supposed to get 3-4 days notice for a test in high school or at least a weekend.

My son had four tests one day and two tests the next day. He wasn’t given much time to prepare for these exams and I’m wondering if he can speak to teachers about giving more notice. Having a weekend really helps him since he just takes longer to read, take notes and study.

He has severe ADHD, vision issues and processing issues (yes he has a 504) so this is very stressful when tests with lots of content are sprung on him with 1-2 days notice.

Anyone ever address this issue?
The teacher who really piled it on said my son needed to justify why he couldn’t prepare in two days. Honestly, it was a lot. I’d struggle to master that even if it’s the only work I had.

We are 9 days into the school year. No one is giving "tests" (summative assessments for an entire unit that can't be retaken) at this point, much less 6 different teachers. They certainly aren't giving "exams" which cover multiple units of material for an entire course. It sounds more like your DS had quizzes, which would cover 1-2 weeks of material. No, teachers don't need to give more than a day or two advanced warning (and there can be no warning - "pop quiz", but best practice would be that it is retakable). Quizzes are supposed to be a check point so both the student and the teacher know where they stand on content so far. Often quizzes are retakable (depends on the course, teacher, and timing in the quarter) and this should be made clear at the time of the quiz. Actual tests are definitely given more than a day or two notice. They typically come with a review day. If your son is not sure about when his teachers are aiming for the first test, he should ask when they will be and if he can get a review guide or summary of what to study several days in advance.

You should have a conversation with your DS about staying on top of daily assignments and studying a little every night so that he doesn't need an entire weekend to catch up in preparation for a quiz. If he is in multiple AP classes and cannot keep up with the pace of the work, then he should consider dropping back to Honors in some classes with a high reading load. If he already feels behind after 2 weeks of school, it's just going to get worse.

-HS teacher


+1. Excellent advice (another teacher here)
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 14:01     Subject: Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:I remember someone saying kids are supposed to get 3-4 days notice for a test in high school or at least a weekend.

My son had four tests one day and two tests the next day. He wasn’t given much time to prepare for these exams and I’m wondering if he can speak to teachers about giving more notice. Having a weekend really helps him since he just takes longer to read, take notes and study.

He has severe ADHD, vision issues and processing issues (yes he has a 504) so this is very stressful when tests with lots of content are sprung on him with 1-2 days notice.

Anyone ever address this issue?
The teacher who really piled it on said my son needed to justify why he couldn’t prepare in two days. Honestly, it was a lot. I’d struggle to master that even if it’s the only work I had.

We are 9 days into the school year. No one is giving "tests" (summative assessments for an entire unit that can't be retaken) at this point, much less 6 different teachers. They certainly aren't giving "exams" which cover multiple units of material for an entire course. It sounds more like your DS had quizzes, which would cover 1-2 weeks of material. No, teachers don't need to give more than a day or two advanced warning (and there can be no warning - "pop quiz", but best practice would be that it is retakable). Quizzes are supposed to be a check point so both the student and the teacher know where they stand on content so far. Often quizzes are retakable (depends on the course, teacher, and timing in the quarter) and this should be made clear at the time of the quiz. Actual tests are definitely given more than a day or two notice. They typically come with a review day. If your son is not sure about when his teachers are aiming for the first test, he should ask when they will be and if he can get a review guide or summary of what to study several days in advance.

You should have a conversation with your DS about staying on top of daily assignments and studying a little every night so that he doesn't need an entire weekend to catch up in preparation for a quiz. If he is in multiple AP classes and cannot keep up with the pace of the work, then he should consider dropping back to Honors in some classes with a high reading load. If he already feels behind after 2 weeks of school, it's just going to get worse.

-HS teacher
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 12:50     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1-2 day’s notice is enough. Most students know when it is coming since they are wrapping up a unit or book.


Yes, for neurotypical kids you are correct. OP’s kid is not neurotypical.


She is free to have a 504 meeting to request a certain number of day’s notice for tests but really, students should be studying nightly so they don’t need to cram it in a few days before the test.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 12:24     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1-2 day’s notice is enough. Most students know when it is coming since they are wrapping up a unit or book.


Yes, for neurotypical kids you are correct. OP’s kid is not neurotypical.


But these days that's pretty much every kid who's parents could afford a diagnosis.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 12:04     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:1-2 day’s notice is enough. Most students know when it is coming since they are wrapping up a unit or book.


Yes, for neurotypical kids you are correct. OP’s kid is not neurotypical.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 09:21     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, they are not required to give any notice. If your son is struggling with this due to his adhd then you need to call a 504 meeting to see if you can get advance notice for test put in.


So kids can walk into class tomorrow and the teacher can spring a test on them?


It's called a pop quiz.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 09:19     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
1-2 day’s notice is enough. Most students know when it is coming since they are wrapping up a unit or book.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 08:49     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
Anonymous wrote:No, they are not required to give any notice. If your son is struggling with this due to his adhd then you need to call a 504 meeting to see if you can get advance notice for test put in.


So kids can walk into class tomorrow and the teacher can spring a test on them?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2023 08:46     Subject: Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
I would reach out to the counselor about adding it as an accommodaiton for your 504 plan.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2023 20:58     Subject: Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
My son has sometimes not had enough warning. He has an IEP. One of his issues is very slow processing speed so it takes him longer to learn material and finish his workload leaving less time to study. The case manager has sometimes intervened on his behalf so that he can take a test a day or two later. We are lucky that his teachers have generally been supportive.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2023 20:17     Subject: Re:Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
No, they are not required to give any notice. If your son is struggling with this due to his adhd then you need to call a 504 meeting to see if you can get advance notice for test put in.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2023 20:14     Subject: Do teachers have to give notification for tests?
I remember someone saying kids are supposed to get 3-4 days notice for a test in high school or at least a weekend.

My son had four tests one day and two tests the next day. He wasn’t given much time to prepare for these exams and I’m wondering if he can speak to teachers about giving more notice. Having a weekend really helps him since he just takes longer to read, take notes and study.

He has severe ADHD, vision issues and processing issues (yes he has a 504) so this is very stressful when tests with lots of content are sprung on him with 1-2 days notice.

Anyone ever address this issue?
The teacher who really piled it on said my son needed to justify why he couldn’t prepare in two days. Honestly, it was a lot. I’d struggle to master that even if it’s the only work I had.