What sat scores for these schools?

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Anonymous wrote:To add onto that- for competitive d3 when does your kid take the SAT? End of junior year so it is part of the pre read?

PP- Yes they should be done by June of Junior year with standardized tests. Remember Recruited athletes at top 3 academic schools need good scores (Over 1400), not perfect scores. My swimmer had lower scores that my non athlete and was fine with college admissions pre reads. I found with swimming, that it was more important for the athlete to be fast and have the swimming cuts than to have perfect test scores if your kid is looking at that type of school. The fastest D3 swim schools (Emory, NYU, Williams, Wash U, Chicago, Carnegie, Amherst) are great academically, and they use their recruited spots for athletes that are very fast and good students.

Totally agree with PP above based on my 2 DC who both were D3 recruits in swimming. Would add, test scores do need to be in the range and especially for schools mentioned so do grades. Low test/low grades fast swimmer aren't going to be a match for these places. Know kids from DMV that have been at or are at NYU, Williams, Chicago, Carnegie and Amherst and all were good students and fast.

Anonymous wrote:To add onto that- for competitive d3 when does your kid take the SAT? End of junior year so it is part of the pre read?

PP- Yes they should be done by June of Junior year with standardized tests. Remember Recruited athletes at top 3 academic schools need good scores (Over 1400), not perfect scores. My swimmer had lower scores that my non athlete and was fine with college admissions pre reads. I found with swimming, that it was more important for the athlete to be fast and have the swimming cuts than to have perfect test scores if your kid is looking at that type of school. The fastest D3 swim schools (Emory, NYU, Williams, Wash U, Chicago, Carnegie, Amherst) are great academically, and they use their recruited spots for athletes that are very fast and good students.

If you want the SAT in the admissions package for recruiting you need to plan to take it early.

To add onto that- for competitive d3 when does your kid take the SAT? End of junior year so it is part of the pre read?

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Anonymous wrote:How are kids getting a pre read at end of junior year if they haven’t written essays yet (or even taken SATs more than once)

At the point, admissions is looking at whether you are likely to be admitted, based on your grades and scores. It's not an offer of admission.

My D3 Swimmer did their pre reads the summer before their Senior year. They had done their SATs and needed to write an essay for one of the schools. My recommendation for any swimmer is to study for the SATs in the summer between their sophomore and junior year and take them in August before their Junior year starts. Hopefully they will be one and done with the standardized tests. Swimmers just don't have a lot of time during the school year to prepare and take them. In addition, our club coach really did not like the kids missing a Saturday practice.

Agree with PP above, my one DC at D3 school did several pre-reads before Senior year. Don't agree that SAT must be done so early. Same DC was a COVID kid who was planning on a post Dec champs SAT test Junior year and.... then it was impossible to find an SAT option for months - finally found one in August before Senior year. So all that to say that PSAT scores are enough of a starting point for most (and they were for all DC was looking at). Junior year is the normal time to be reaching out to coaches of schools where your child is a swimming AND academic match at most D3 or NAIA schools, and I'd argue many D2 (not top 20) and lower tier D1 (low mid-major and lower). Don't have roster or budget for kids that aren't going to be a fit on both fronts. It's easy enough to see if your kid is going to be a swimming match by looking at if their times would even be in the mix of what you can find online - and better to not be just in the mix but in the top 5 at a minimum.

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Anonymous wrote:How are kids getting a pre read at end of junior year if they haven’t written essays yet (or even taken SATs more than once)

At the point, admissions is looking at whether you are likely to be admitted, based on your grades and scores. It's not an offer of admission.

My D3 Swimmer did their pre reads the summer before their Senior year. They had done their SATs and needed to write an essay for one of the schools. My recommendation for any swimmer is to study for the SATs in the summer between their sophomore and junior year and take them in August before their Junior year starts. Hopefully they will be one and done with the standardized tests. Swimmers just don't have a lot of time during the school year to prepare and take them. In addition, our club coach really did not like the kids missing a Saturday practice.

Anonymous wrote:How are kids getting a pre read at end of junior year if they haven’t written essays yet (or even taken SATs more than once)

At the point, admissions is looking at whether you are likely to be admitted, based on your grades and scores. It's not an offer of admission.

How are kids getting a pre read at end of junior year if they haven’t written essays yet (or even taken SATs more than once)

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Anonymous wrote:I have a d3 swimmer. They did prereads after junior year. If admissions was positive they will ask you to apply ED.

And admissions knows they’ve done a pre read a year before when the kid applies as a senior? I assume, yes.

Also, did your swimmer spend little time on essays and the app as a whole after the pre read?

PP- yes they took the application seriously and my kid applied to UMD as a back up if swimming didn’t work out and another safety school.

Anonymous wrote:I have a d3 swimmer. They did prereads after junior year. If admissions was positive they will ask you to apply ED.

And admissions knows they’ve done a pre read a year before when the kid applies as a senior? I assume, yes.

Also, did your swimmer spend little time on essays and the app as a whole after the pre read?

I have a d3 swimmer. They did prereads after junior year. If admissions was positive they will ask you to apply ED.

OP here. Ha yes my sentence not artfully worded. Or wishful thinking. I meant to say as we near the end whenever that will be, which I’m guessing will be fall senior year unless she changes her mind and goes D1. We’ve had one school tell us pre-read after first semester junior year. Another tell us after junior year grades. And a third saying after junior year grades but they won’t look at until beginning of her senior year, which is later than the other two. Just trying to figure out how it all works. And coach not helpful. His kids all go D1 and he doesn’t seem all that interested in touching D3. Any insight into timing or anything else and feel free to assume I know nothing.

Anonymous wrote:Saw the D1 post re recruiting. As official visits don’t quite happen like that in D3, any insight into process as we near end? Kid has met a bunch of coaches and has been told to stay in touch. One coach sends a bi-weekly thought provoking question. It’s cute. Three top choices all do pre-reads at different times from one another, which surprised me. One coach was clear that she only gets 4 spots and this year she had 10 new people on team. We were led to believe that my kid would apply ED to only one school but now I’m confused about how the support works from the coach. Kid is a junior so we have some time.

If your swimmer is a junior, aren't you just starting out and not nearing the end?

Saw the D1 post re recruiting. As official visits don’t quite happen like that in D3, any insight into process as we near end? Kid has met a bunch of coaches and has been told to stay in touch. One coach sends a bi-weekly thought provoking question. It’s cute. Three top choices all do pre-reads at different times from one another, which surprised me. One coach was clear that she only gets 4 spots and this year she had 10 new people on team. We were led to believe that my kid would apply ED to only one school but now I’m confused about how the support works from the coach. Kid is a junior so we have some time.