Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? Now we’re at the point where we have to have narcan handy? What’s happened to us?

Thank China.

China has nearly no domestic fentanyl problem.

China produces nearly all the fentanyl smuggled into the U.S.

The Revive training I attended in Virginia said to keep the narcan in your purse or backpack so it is always right with you if you need it

This is not a joke. In the U.S. over 100,306 people died from an opioid-involved overdose in 2021. One study found that bystanders were present in more than one in three overdoses involving opioids. With the right tools, bystanders can act to prevent overdose deaths. (CDC Press Release, 2021)

Is this a joke? Now we’re at the point where we have to have narcan handy? What’s happened to us?

OP here.
Thanks. Where do you actually keep it?

I ordered the Narcan free from DC and it came today.. I have two doses. I wanted to put it in our cars but it looks like extreme heat/cold over time is not good for it.

I have zero reason to think that my kids will use drugs. But I do know that they go out and about to typical teenage things: sports games, friends' homes, restaurants, etc. Who the heck knows what they'll encounter along the way of if someday they themselves will have an error in judgement. I've known about 5 kids who have died in the greater NW DC parenting community over the past 5 years. All from good homes--friends of classmates, etc. It's a small world thanks to social media and these stories get out quickly. We were a few degrees removed from several of them.

Yes I have narcan and I keep it in the basement bathroom bc it’s cool down there. I have a middle schooler.

My high schooler carries it in his backpack. I carry it in mine. Do I think I'll need to save him, or he'll need to save me? No, but there are plenty of other people around where it might come in handy.

It's like AED and stock epi pens. I don't have those because of cost, but if someone was handing them out free? Of course I'd have them.

And just to add: again, my kids school is better than yours. There was still a fentanyl incident at our school last year. It is in your kids school too. It is in every school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If so, where do you keep it?
I was thinking of keeping it in each car's glove compartment.
My kids are typical "good" high schoolers but they do go out on the weekends.

Oh wow.
Our definitions are very different.
To me “good” assumes a basic expectation that you’re obeying the law.
Narcan is to counteract an opioid overdose. This is “going out on the weekends” for “good” kids??
What you described sounds like “risky” high schoolers.
Maybe my standards are just too high.

But that said, it sounds like you know your kids. So if you think you have a need to have Narcan in your cars, better safe than sorry.

NP.

Keeping it around (after training) has ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with how “good” anyone thinks their kids are. It has to do with saving a life; possibly within your own family; possibly someone else’s child. That’s it.

Any yes PP, your standards are unrealistic. My kids’ school is probably better than your kids school (ie 2nd/3rd best in the entire state!). My kids are extremely well accomplished. And my kids are trained on how to use Narcan on others.

The school does not allow kids to carry Narcan. I don’t care. My kids carry it. If my children end up saving a life while violating a stupid policy, I will be happy to litigate if they attempt to discipline my children.

Will my own kids need Narcan? I highly doubt it - but I refuse to fall into the false complacency of “not my kid!” syndrome.

There is always a chance - no matter how slim - that your kids, my kids, or any kids (no matter how “good” the parents think they are - might ingest fentanyl.

Don’t kid yourself. It is out there. Every child is at risk.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If so, where do you keep it?
I was thinking of keeping it in each car's glove compartment.
My kids are typical "good" high schoolers but they do go out on the weekends.

Oh wow.
Our definitions are very different.
To me “good” assumes a basic expectation that you’re obeying the law.
Narcan is to counteract an opioid overdose. This is “going out on the weekends” for “good” kids??
What you described sounds like “risky” high schoolers.
Maybe my standards are just too high.

But that said, it sounds like you know your kids. So if you think you have a need to have Narcan in your cars, better safe than sorry.

Take a deep breath. OP is saying that her kids are good, but they still have social lives. So they're out on the weekends, around other high schoolers. Any of them could need narcan, hence the "keep it in the glove compartment" idea.

This is like trying to take someone to task for teaching their kids mouth-to-mouth resuscitation because you would never be so low as to raise a kid who can't swim.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If so, where do you keep it?
I was thinking of keeping it in each car's glove compartment.
My kids are typical "good" high schoolers but they do go out on the weekends.

Oh wow.
Our definitions are very different.
To me “good” assumes a basic expectation that you’re obeying the law.
Narcan is to counteract an opioid overdose. This is “going out on the weekends” for “good” kids??
What you described sounds like “risky” high schoolers.
Maybe my standards are just too high.

But that said, it sounds like you know your kids. So if you think you have a need to have Narcan in your cars, better safe than sorry.

NP. This isn’t a good kid/bad kid issue. It’s a kids do stupid things sometimes when they are outside of the supervision of their parents and we want to protect them from the ultimate harm of their stupidity. And most parents don’t really know what their kids are doing after they reach a certain age.

Every parent of teens should have Narcan. My kids are littler but I’m a pediatrician and have seen addiction and fentanyl poisoning in adolescents. And sometime it is the “good” kids.

Anonymous wrote:If so, where do you keep it?
I was thinking of keeping it in each car's glove compartment.
My kids are typical "good" high schoolers but they do go out on the weekends.

Oh wow.
Our definitions are very different.
To me “good” assumes a basic expectation that you’re obeying the law.
Narcan is to counteract an opioid overdose. This is “going out on the weekends” for “good” kids??
What you described sounds like “risky” high schoolers.
Maybe my standards are just too high.

But that said, it sounds like you know your kids. So if you think you have a need to have Narcan in your cars, better safe than sorry.

I heard it shouldn’t be stored above 85 degrees so the car might not be great…but you’re smart to have some on hand

If so, where do you keep it?
I was thinking of keeping it in each car's glove compartment.
My kids are typical "good" high schoolers but they do go out on the weekends.