Anonymous wrote:CICO types are confused by the concept of correlation, and that’s the most charitable way of putting it. What matters is insulin response to blood glucose changes.

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CICO types are confused by the concept of correlation, and that’s the most charitable way of putting it. What matters is insulin response to blood glucose changes.

YES of course !! Calories always matter. Read up on Keto - the whole premise is fats/proteins are more filling for less amounts of food. You should eat very little on Keto. Please study this diet.

Calories always matter if you want to lose weight. I did Neto successfully to lose weight after my pregnancy but I was tracking my calories too eating about 1600 per day. 1300 sounds very low and you could likely eat a bit more and still lose unless you are already quite small and not very active. Make sure you have plenty of low carb veggies with your meals. Once you get into ketosis sticking to low calories should get pretty easy as the beauty of keto is that you never feel hungry. My problem with keto was that I was not able to keep the weight off after reintroducing carbs. Eventually I had better success with following macros and just eating less of what I normally do, avoiding junk food and keeping my protein high.

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I am confused since my fitness pal recommends 1300 cals per day, but high fat Keto foods take up a lot of those cals.

For example, my breakfast of 3 scrambled eggs cooked in one tablespoon of butter with half an avocado and 2 cups of coffee with one tablespoon of heavy cream each is about half of my daily allowance. Then my lunch, chicken Caesar (no croutons - just lettuce, Parmesan, chicken and dressing) is nearly 500 cals. It basically leaves nothing for dinner and it’s not a huge volume of food.

Forget Calories.. They are meaningless. Here is how a Calorie is measured:

An item is combusted in a chamber surrounded by water. A bomb calorimeter measures the increase in the temperature of the water as a result of the combustion. For every mL of water raised 1 degree Celsius, the colorimeter measures 1 Calorie.

Does your body work that way? NO! A bomb calorimeter would measure tons of calories from combusting wood. Go eat that piece of wood and tell me how much energy it gives you. In addition, the amount of energy your body burns is partly dependent on how much energy you consume. If you consume very little energy, your body will reduce the amount of energy it uses for many functions. Also, the number of calories in food is allowed to be off by something like 20%. Finally, metabolizing protein uses a lot more energy and turns it into heat. So you can't get the same energy out of protein as you can out of fat or carbs. Stop thinking Calories.

This is OP. I am confused since my fitness pal recommends 1300 cals per day, but high fat Keto foods take up a lot of those cals.

For example, my breakfast of 3 scrambled eggs cooked in one tablespoon of butter with half an avocado and 2 cups of coffee with one tablespoon of heavy cream each is about half of my daily allowance. Then my lunch, chicken Caesar (no croutons - just lettuce, Parmesan, chicken and dressing) is nearly 500 cals. It basically leaves nothing for dinner and it’s not a huge volume of food.

Calories are a bad measure of potential energy. Your body doesn’t use them

Yes, if you are doing keto to lose weight (I'm doing it for other medical purposes). You also do have to actually pay attention to macros--if your fat/protein ratio is off, and you are eating too much protein and not enough fat, that can throw you out of ketosis (your body can break protein down into glucose).

Calories matter, always. The idea with Keto is that you'll be satiated with fewer calories due to the amount of fat you're eating. I found it to be true, for me.

Of course calories matter. If you are in a calorie surplus, you will gain weight no matter what you are eating.

But honestly, you will have more success if you just stick to a whole foods diet. Eat lean meats. Eat beans and barley (carbs!), eat apples, carrots, and all the fruits and vegetables you want.

If you are doing keto properly you will have zero hunger.

Anonymous wrote:I know many people say that no matter what diet you follow at the end of the day it’s about a calorie deficit.

Curious if this holds true for a diet like Keto. I have lost some weight from calorie counting but stalled out and decided to switch to Keto because I don’t want to cut calories any further. But the foods you eat on Keto are really high calorie so I really can’t do it and stick to my 1300 cals at a time. Between using butter and olive oil for each meal that would burn through the calories alone.

Will I see success if I am eating more calories but not carbs, sugar, etc?

You will see success if you go into ketosis. You will also see success if your blood glucose remains stable. That’s really what you need to track. Get a ketosis and glucose monitor such as Keto Mojo and test yourself periodically and prove this to yourself.

If you use an app like carbbmanager, it will show you the interactions between fat, protein, calories. I find that I never hit my calorie limit in keto (1700) because I run out of carbs first.

No, you still need to watch calories on Keto. For some people it provides more satiation, so it makes it easier.

I know many people say that no matter what diet you follow at the end of the day it’s about a calorie deficit.

Curious if this holds true for a diet like Keto. I have lost some weight from calorie counting but stalled out and decided to switch to Keto because I don’t want to cut calories any further. But the foods you eat on Keto are really high calorie so I really can’t do it and stick to my 1300 cals at a time. Between using butter and olive oil for each meal that would burn through the calories alone.

Will I see success if I am eating more calories but not carbs, sugar, etc?