Anonymous wrote:A lot of prolife people give away their extra embryos.

A. No they don’t
B. Many “lower quality” embryos are destroyed long before they get to the donate/destroy the remaining ones part.

A lot of prolife people give away their extra embryos.

Anonymous wrote:OP’s fundamental mistake is in expecting logic from crazy people.

you make a good point

OP’s fundamental mistake is in expecting logic from crazy people.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. If life really starts at conception, IVF can’t be consistent with a pro-life- anti-choice stance.

I also don’t think you can be pro-life and pro-viagra. If God wanted those people to procreate and make a baby, then the man wouldn’t need artificial assistance.

+ to infinity! I would love to hear the evangelical right wing crazies answer this question, particularly men who use Viagra

I do not recommend waiting for these crazes to be truly pro-life. They are not, and never have been.

Anonymous wrote:I agree. If life really starts at conception, IVF can’t be consistent with a pro-life- anti-choice stance.

I also don’t think you can be pro-life and pro-viagra. If God wanted those people to procreate and make a baby, then the man wouldn’t need artificial assistance.

+ to infinity! I would love to hear the evangelical right wing crazies answer this question, particularly men who use Viagra

they will tell you that God gave us science and He helps those who help themselves

Seriously - these are things I have seen posted on parenting boards previously

I think it is incredibly hypocritical to use reproductive tech if you are anti-abortion. AND/OR to be pro-death penalty but anti-abortion.

Yes, I think it is hypocritical. An embryo is an embryo right? I think they’re wrong on both counts and they shouldn’t oppose either, but I appreciate the consistency. I don’t like people trying to limit the rights of others while carving out exceptions for themselves.

I don't understand how anyone who believes in god can also believe in medicine. Isn't getting sick or being infertile a part of god's plan?

Yes, because the IVF process discards embryos.

Anonymous wrote:Person is also extremely religiously/politically conservative. But this person also uses IVF. I know many conservative churches are against this.

Thoughts?

That is hypocritical. That person should be free to make their own decisions about their fertility and uterus and everyone else should be free to do the same. Fertility, abortion and other medical decisions are for the patient and doc.

Same people who are "pro-life" are also pro capital punishment. The same people also generally do not want to help provide services to the poor, particularly poor children.

I agree. If life really starts at conception, IVF can’t be consistent with a pro-life- anti-choice stance.

I also don’t think you can be pro-life and pro-viagra. If God wanted those people to procreate and make a baby, then the man wouldn’t need artificial assistance.

Yep.

I don't agree with the conservative churches and others who are against IVF but I appreciate their consistency in being against it.

Person is also extremely religiously/politically conservative. But this person also uses IVF. I know many conservative churches are against this.

Thoughts?