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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they are serious about it, but boy has it been an epic cluster of leadership failure. From a heavy handed proclamation all must return without assessing office space (put them in the utility closets? Do they REALLY need wifi?) To hackneyed guidance on enforcement, it's been an absolute mess and they look like fools. All the engineers and they can't integrate a badge system to PTO or leave of absence systems? Sending out threatening emails about not being in the office 3 days a week to people on paternity and medical leave with obvious exceptions was despicable.

Umm, did they request paternity leave because otherwise that's not legal.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they are serious about it, but boy has it been an epic cluster of leadership failure. From a heavy handed proclamation all must return without assessing office space (put them in the utility closets? Do they REALLY need wifi?) To hackneyed guidance on enforcement, it's been an absolute mess and they look like fools. All the engineers and they can't integrate a badge system to PTO or leave of absence systems? Sending out threatening emails about not being in the office 3 days a week to people on paternity and medical leave with obvious exceptions was despicable.

Anonymous wrote:How is it good? Lots more on the road commuting. They are looking to get rid of folks.

Anonymous wrote:I support this, especially for a company like Amazon who, at least in DC, specifically chose an office location to be convenient for commuting (especially via public transportation -- they even built a new metro stop there!). It just doesn't make sense to throw all that out the window.

I think people need to get used to the idea that post-Covid work will involve some flexible arrangements where you have required days in the office but also more flexibility to WFH part of the time than you had pre-Covid. This is still a huge upgrade for most workers! Jobs with zero flexibility or WFH were so stressful pre-Covid, especially for people with young kids or other commitments. So many people have the freedom to WFH 1-3 days a week who used to be more chained to their desks. That's great. I think there is also greater flexibility with work schedule and employers are a bit more understanding about half days or needing to leave early certain days. At least that's my impression for both my work and DH's.

But I also think people really underestimate the value of in-person work. I don't want it 40 hours a week, but personally I really benefit from being in the office with colleagues at least 2 days a week. Things get done faster, meetings are more productive, and I think it contributes to better culture. I actually like my colleagues, it's good to see them more than we have the last few years. I think people who want 100% WFH often just dislike their jobs. And that's a different problem.