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Anonymous wrote:Is this ChatGPT or a terrible shill to get clicks on an article?

It definitely has that feel, guess the author ran it through a bot.

Hmmm.... yea it does have that bit of that GPT feel.

Also the 366 days is for the Cal State system, not UCs, which require two years to count as a resident.

I have tried to research but found no distinction between UCs and Cal State system. Do you have a link to something that indicates you need two years for UCs?

DP but this is what I've found (which seems to indicate your 366 days may be correct)
https://www.ucop.edu/residency/residency-requirements.html#:~:text=Physical%20presence,which%20you%20request%20resident%20status.

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Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.

There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.

Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect

Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this ChatGPT or a terrible shill to get clicks on an article?

It definitely has that feel, guess the author ran it through a bot.

Hmmm.... yea it does have that bit of that GPT feel.

Also the 366 days is for the Cal State system, not UCs, which require two years to count as a resident.

I have tried to research but found no distinction between UCs and Cal State system. Do you have a link to something that indicates you need two years for UCs?

Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.

There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.

Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.

Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this ChatGPT or a terrible shill to get clicks on an article?

It definitely has that feel, guess the author ran it through a bot.

Hmmm.... yea it does have that bit of that GPT feel.

Also the 366 days is for the Cal State system, not UCs, which require two years to count as a resident.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this ChatGPT or a terrible shill to get clicks on an article?

It definitely has that feel, guess the author ran it through a bot.

Hmmm.... yea it does have that bit of that GPT feel.

Anonymous wrote:Is this ChatGPT or a terrible shill to get clicks on an article?

It definitely has that feel, guess the author ran it through a bot.

I gather if you work remote and your kid gets into a UC school, then there is nothing stopping you from moving to CA and then your kid gets residency for Soph - Senior years?

California resident here with HS aged kids. Thanks OP good to know.

It's interesting, because K-12 public school funding is crap in CA (I'm a product of it). I went to one of the colleges you listed.

IMO, CA universities are good because there are a lot of really smart kids there, in part, because there are a lot of high paying jobs which attracts smart people.

CA has opened more UC and CSU campuses since I lived/went to school there. They have a lot of colleges because they have a lot of people.

It's hard to replicate the success of CA public universities because you need the population size and the high paying jobs to attract smart people to the state.

Unlike NY, CA has high paying jobs both in NorCal and Socal, in several different counties. oth, for NY, most of the high paying jobs are are concentrated in NYC.

TX and FL have the population size, but not enough metro areas with high paying jobs. Nor are Rs all that keen on education.

Anonymous wrote:Is this ChatGPT or a terrible shill to get clicks on an article?

I think op just wanted to share the article but maybe knows that Jeff will delete posts that only include links.

Great options for Californians.
Hard pass from DMV area.

Is this ChatGPT or a terrible shill to get clicks on an article?

It’s no surprise that Princeton and Harvard made the top 25 colleges, but despite California’s woes, four of its public universities did so too.

California has had a rough few years. Wildfires, drought, flash flooding and mudslides have devastated parts of the state and driven away major homeowners insurance providers. Retailers are leaving San Francisco en masse and tech companies—including Meta, Slack, Salesforce and PayPal—are slowly moving jobs out of that city, subleasing or selling their office space in favor of remote work. Housing is unaffordable for many and homelessness is growing. Meanwhile, one California jewel continues to shine—its state college system.

Four of the University of California’s 10 campuses earned a spot in the top 25 on Forbes’ 2023 America’s Top Colleges list: the University of California Berkeley (#5); the University of California, Los Angeles (#7); the University of California, San Diego (#21); and the University of California, Santa Barbara (#24). All eight Ivy League colleges made the top 25, but only one other public school—the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (#23) made that cut.

To be sure, flagship schools in other states rank highly—the University of Washington, Seattle Campus (#26); the University of Florida (#27); and the University of Virginia (#29). But no public university system dominates our list like California’s. Among our top 100 for 2023, 44 schools are public. But remarkably, 12 of those 44 are in California. Along with the four UC schools in the top 25, there’s University of California, Davis (#37); San Diego State University (#43); the University of California, Irvine (#61); the University of California, Riverside (#75); California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo (#83); San Jose State University (#87); California State University, Fullerton (#90) and University of California-Santa Cruz (#92).

Not surprisingly, Reddit is peppered with questions about how to establish California residency in order to qualify for in-state tuition, and the University of California maintains strict criteria to determine a students’ legal residency. Moving in with your Laguna Beach-based grandparents isn’t enough—to be deemed a California resident, undergraduates must either be dependent on parents in California for at least 366 days prior to the first day of instruction, or considered financially independent, which involves holding a California driver’s license, voter registration and for some, a California tax return.

Notably, part of California’s recent increase in state spending has been dedicated to direct grants for middle class residents as well as poorer students, holding down the percentage of California state students who borrow and their total debt. For example, only 33% of California four-year college students took out federal loans in 2019-2020, compared to an average of 44% in the rest of the U.S.

Among the eight Ivies, the share of Pell grant recipients ranges from 12% (at #9 ranked Harvard) to 23% (at #6 ranked Columbia). By contrast, among the four UCs in the top 25, the Pell range is 27% (at #5 ranked UC, Berkeley) to 33% (at #21 ranked UC, San Diego). At the highest rated state school outside of California, #23 ranked University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, just 18% of students get Pell Grants.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawhitford/2023/08/29/why-californias-public-universities-are-so-good/?sh=40f9d39d16c8