Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 16:29     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

you got laid off off by the government? or you were a contractor?
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 13:45     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.


You have a current clearance that is still valid 2 years after stopping cleared work. When you go back to cleared work you are briefed again on a need to know basis.


No you don’t. It’s immediately inactive when you no longer have a “need to know” which OP doesn’t because OP no longer works in a cleared job.

Sure, because it’s recent, it could be easily reactivated. And travel in the interim might need to be taken into account or questioned. But OP doesn’t currently have a clearance or need to inform anyone of anything or get permission to travel.


The clearance is deemed current when it's not active but the clearance is there. I had a potential employer check it. Inactive in the cleared world means it's past its 2 years and needs to be reinvestigated.


So we’re parsing the difference between “not active” and “inactive”…
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 13:27     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't even occur to me to not travel abroad because of a security clearance. If and when you get a new one, and they ask you if you have traveled abroad, you say, "yes" and tell them where. ASsuning it's not Iran or N Korea or something i can't imagine it would matter.


+1


+2 I have a clearance and am not required to notify my employer of intl travel. Intl travel to suspect places would be an issue during my next recertification or whatever is called obviously.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 12:35     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.


You have a current clearance that is still valid 2 years after stopping cleared work. When you go back to cleared work you are briefed again on a need to know basis.


No you don’t. It’s immediately inactive when you no longer have a “need to know” which OP doesn’t because OP no longer works in a cleared job.

Sure, because it’s recent, it could be easily reactivated. And travel in the interim might need to be taken into account or questioned. But OP doesn’t currently have a clearance or need to inform anyone of anything or get permission to travel.


The clearance is deemed current when it's not active but the clearance is there. I had a potential employer check it. Inactive in the cleared world means it's past its 2 years and needs to be reinvestigated.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 08:35     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't even occur to me to not travel abroad because of a security clearance. If and when you get a new one, and they ask you if you have traveled abroad, you say, "yes" and tell them where. ASsuning it's not Iran or N Korea or something i can't imagine it would matter.


+1
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 08:17     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

It wouldn't even occur to me to not travel abroad because of a security clearance. If and when you get a new one, and they ask you if you have traveled abroad, you say, "yes" and tell them where. ASsuning it's not Iran or N Korea or something i can't imagine it would matter.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 07:58     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.


This is always my question— when I left my job with a clearance I notified them that I no longer needed my clearance. Do people not do that?


It doesn't work that way.


+1. A clearance is not your personal property or some kind of license that follows you around. It’s inherently connected to an actual job that you are actively doing.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 07:55     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.


You have a current clearance that is still valid 2 years after stopping cleared work. When you go back to cleared work you are briefed again on a need to know basis.


No you don’t. It’s immediately inactive when you no longer have a “need to know” which OP doesn’t because OP no longer works in a cleared job.

Sure, because it’s recent, it could be easily reactivated. And travel in the interim might need to be taken into account or questioned. But OP doesn’t currently have a clearance or need to inform anyone of anything or get permission to travel.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 07:27     Subject: Re:Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

If an agency still holds your clearance, you need to inform them of your travel in advance even if you're not presently employed.

If your clearance is inactive, you'll need to inform a new future employer of your travel as they bring you back into access. Just keep track of where you went, the dates, and who you interacted with more than very casually so you can do such reporting if it becomes necessary.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 22:45     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.


This is always my question— when I left my job with a clearance I notified them that I no longer needed my clearance. Do people not do that?


It doesn't work that way.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 22:44     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.


You have a current clearance that is still valid 2 years after stopping cleared work. When you go back to cleared work you are briefed again on a need to know basis.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 22:39     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.


This is always my question— when I left my job with a clearance I notified them that I no longer needed my clearance. Do people not do that?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 21:47     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

You still have to follow the rules of the clearance as it will be an issue if you keep it with your next job.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 21:24     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

Anonymous wrote:I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.


I mean, no, you don’t have a clearance if you were laid off from the cleared job.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 21:09     Subject: Traveling abroad in between jobs when I have a clearance.

I was laid off and still job searching. Is it a good idea to travel abroad to see family and friends I haven't seen in years? Somehow feel like the layoff may have been a nudge by the universe to go out visit and explore. I do have some free miles that I need to spend.