How old are your kids?

They are offering you a full year membership now? In August? That has never been the time line previously. How could they know this they have no idea who is returning as members for next year yet.

We are at Overlee and it's the only Div 1 pool we've been at. The head coach is genuinely great and sets a good tone. Families are nice. If your kid is a lower-level swimmer, they will get zero attention. But they still have a great time.

I don't see how the swim team would dominate your decision though. Which one is closer to your house?

In my dream of dreams, OKM would enter Division and beat the snot out of them instead of being the tribute.

As a family on a team who has been in Division One (thankfully not any longer), OVL is much kinder than Tuckahoe. I would make the switch too.

Anonymous wrote:I am a parent of a Tuckahoe swimmer who has august passes at overlee. We just got notification that our august passes can be full year for the 2024 season. I did not even know they could tell us this so early in the season, but I, unlike the rest of my family, am thrilled. If you had asked me a year ago if I wanted to switch I would have said no, but after the way I saw the tuckahoe swimmers treat other teams this year I want nothing more than to leave. In my opinion, TRC did not only cheat at ASR (by having a swimmer participate for this meet and the one against CST that didnt even live in VA anymore) but they were proud of it too. I saw overlee cheering for other teams at ASR (specifically OKM) and the way they were at the dual meet even after losing to us. OVL may not be perfect, but they are miles ahead of TRC and even CST. My children are refusing to leave because they have friends on Tuckahoe and they seem to have a passionate hatred for OVL (even though every time we visit in august they have a great time and hang out with other swimmers on the OVL team). All the families at OVL have been so nice to us and our children, but I have read the posts about all of the division 1 teams and I really don't feel like it is as bad as it is portrayed. I plan to switch to doing the full summer at OVL, they are young, so they will make new friends and honestly will barely remember their time at TRC, but does that make me controlling? I post this to ask for advice or a warning- please give some incite.

A swimmer can live in Maryland as long as they are on the team. What do you mean by CST?

I am a team rep and there were rumors that a few division one teams were gaming their relay line ups (intentional last minute subs to win) and there were whispers that somehow a few figured out how to sub out more than one swimmer on some of their teams. I would assume that would be the division coordinator turning a blind eye or not paying attention. It could be possible if you flood the table with last minute scratches all at once.

I think it depends on how old your kids are and how long they’ve been on the first team. If they are truly established there, I do think it’s kind of wrong to make them move. But if they’ve only been there a short time and have friends on the other team, they’ll be fine.

It's your money and your values, this isn't your kids' call to make. (That said, I'm a little surprised that your experience at Tuckahoe was so bad - but I don't have direct exposure.)

I'd also consider what's convenient for your family - proximity to home has become increasingly important as my kids have gotten older. - now at OVL (and love it) but have done a few of the local pools on our way here

So what is right for your family. If kindness is what you want your kids to learn then you know the answer.

Division 13 parent, OVL was way nicer/ less intimidating to our swimmers than TRC at ASR.

I am a parent of a Tuckahoe swimmer who has august passes at overlee. We just got notification that our august passes can be full year for the 2024 season. I did not even know they could tell us this so early in the season, but I, unlike the rest of my family, am thrilled. If you had asked me a year ago if I wanted to switch I would have said no, but after the way I saw the tuckahoe swimmers treat other teams this year I want nothing more than to leave. In my opinion, TRC did not only cheat at ASR (by having a swimmer participate for this meet and the one against CST that didnt even live in VA anymore) but they were proud of it too. I saw overlee cheering for other teams at ASR (specifically OKM) and the way they were at the dual meet even after losing to us. OVL may not be perfect, but they are miles ahead of TRC and even CST. My children are refusing to leave because they have friends on Tuckahoe and they seem to have a passionate hatred for OVL (even though every time we visit in august they have a great time and hang out with other swimmers on the OVL team). All the families at OVL have been so nice to us and our children, but I have read the posts about all of the division 1 teams and I really don't feel like it is as bad as it is portrayed. I plan to switch to doing the full summer at OVL, they are young, so they will make new friends and honestly will barely remember their time at TRC, but does that make me controlling? I post this to ask for advice or a warning- please give some incite.