I don’t think RTO helped. At every company that’s aggressively pushed RTO, morale is even worse because workers know they can fully do their jobs without being in an office building.

None of this sounds like slacking to me. Poeple don't want to work 50 and 60 hours a work for pennies and spend hours in their car. There's nothing wrong with working 40 hours a week and going home when work is over. You bosses and companies need to get over yourselves.

I quit a job earlier this year where my boss got mad because I didn't answer the email she sent me on a Saturday or the text she sent me while I was swimming with my kids on a Sunday. GTFO. It was govt contracting, not heart surgery. I'm so over these people who want work to be their lives.

Anonymous wrote:What is up with all these bootlickers raging vs how the younger generations want a greater work life balance?

I guess we should walk in two feet of snow, too…because if you had it bad, we need to have it bad as well.

Why the rage? You’re being paid. In what world is working for a wage a bootlicker? Do you believe you should get a wage with no work? Has your employer mistreated somehow?

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Anonymous wrote:What is up with all these bootlickers raging vs how the younger generations want a greater work life balance?

I guess we should walk in two feet of snow, too…because if you had it bad, we need to have it bad as well.

This is weak and pathetic. Have some personal integrity.

DP. You are so oblivious about your own brainwashing it’s honestly sad. You’re a severance monkey.

Have some “personal integrity” … about dutifully fulfilling your role in a corporation?

Honestly, blow me.

I have personal integrity in my actual life. With friends, family, neighbors, strangers I encounter in life. That doesn’t require that I troll around filing TPS reports as efficiently as possible to provide an incremental boost toward a basis point move on the stock price of some Frankenstein corporate entity.

Ah, TPS reports. Hard to believe Office Space is from the dot.com 90s… of course right before when a couple of programmers would be struggling to make rent and drive a rusty datsun.

Then the dot.com and housing bubbles happened, and it seemed like anyone could get rich. And that went on for quite a while, meanwhile investors and businesses slowly reworked things so there were no more millionaires secretaries.

So we returned to Office Space.

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Anonymous wrote:What is up with all these bootlickers raging vs how the younger generations want a greater work life balance?

I guess we should walk in two feet of snow, too…because if you had it bad, we need to have it bad as well.

This is weak and pathetic. Have some personal integrity.

DP. You are so oblivious about your own brainwashing it’s honestly sad. You’re a severance monkey.

Have some “personal integrity” … about dutifully fulfilling your role in a corporation?

Honestly, blow me.

I have personal integrity in my actual life. With friends, family, neighbors, strangers I encounter in life. That doesn’t require that I troll around filing TPS reports as efficiently as possible to provide an incremental boost toward a basis point move on the stock price of some Frankenstein corporate entity.

Twenty years ago I was a salaried employee who traveled for work about six times a year and in addition to those long days, I worked over 40 hours/week during busy times. But … it was accepted and expected that during non-busy times I could work fewer hours.

Over the last several years, no amount of hours is enough, wfh means you are available at all hours, people are sending emails at midnight or later, and you only get a raise if you threaten to quit. I did quit. The money isn’t worth it. Working 40 hours is not slacking.

Because with a college degree I’m getting paid almost the exact same amount my dad was getting paid in 1995 as a laborer. And he was able to support our family and stay at home mom in a small but nice house on it, while I will be lucky to own a home before I’m 40.

It used to be that working hard easily led to a comfortable life. It’s not the case anymore.

It’s wage and lifestyle transparency revealed by the internet. We now see so many people who make ridiculous money for nonsense jobs (much of finance, banking, sales) where they are just taking huge rent seeking without actually adding value. And we have a clearer idea of how people got to these positions (LinkedIn, Google, ancestry etc) showing family pedigree, private high schools, etc. very rare to see a small town girl from Iowa killing it at a hedge fund, for example.

Meanwhile, the worker bees now realize that the game is rigged, that the idea of working harder and advancing was a carrot on an ever growing stick. Hard work can help, and is necessary from certain starting positions, but the game is rigged and most people know it more clearly now.

Anonymous wrote:What is up with all these bootlickers raging vs how the younger generations want a greater work life balance?

I guess we should walk in two feet of snow, too…because if you had it bad, we need to have it bad as well.

This is weak and pathetic. Have some personal integrity.

I've worked for government for decades and I can assure you that it has always been cool. I even remember my dad bringing me to his government office in the 90s and the hijinks that went on there. He would brag about how they would make prank calls on each other (burping and making fart sounds), nap on the toilet, and throw heavy objects over each other's cubicle walls.

Trololol.

It's the free market, buddy. You want more, pay for it

No one is exaggerating time spent on coffee breaks, chatting, and walking around in the office. Lunches in office are easily 1-2 hours and even before that you're likely walking to get a coffee with multiple coworkers.

What is up with all these bootlickers raging vs how the younger generations want a greater work life balance?

I guess we should walk in two feet of snow, too…because if you had it bad, we need to have it bad as well.

Bunch of Marxists, these kids. No one’s exploiting my surplus labor.

It seems like slacking is the new cool. Even if you put in 40 hours, people don’t understand. Quiet quitting, lazy girl jobs, etc. are now all the rage. People want to count their commute in their 40 hours. People want to sabotage RTO by exaggerating time on in-office conversations, coffee breaks, etc.

Here’s what I don’t understand: all these people are getting paid, so why the bitterness? In fact, most people have received hefty pay increases that well exceed their personal inflation rate. Yet, they seem angry at their employer, their job, and their coworkers. It’s like they expect to be paid and to do nothing. Where did this expectation come from?