Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 18:44     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
Anonymous wrote:I don't care at all, but I think one should take a paycut. Generally, I think anyone who has a job that requires one to work in person, should be paid considerably more. From the grocery restocker to yard work people to teachers to construction crew to janitors to nurses.


Yes, this!

I love my job, so I’m not really jealous of those who WFH. I think I’d feel too isolated. I do wish I had WFH flexibility, being able to run errands or take appointments during work hours. I have to take 4 hours of leave if I need one 40 minute class covered. That’s rather annoying.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 18:44     Subject: Re:For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
As one who prefers working full-time in an office and who rather disliked being forced to work at home during COVID (for good reason, but not by choice), I actually think that work-at-home positions should pay significantly more than in-office positions. If I am expected to provide office space, lights, heat, etc. while the company is saving on those same expenses, I would want to be compensated for that. I never pushed it during COVID, since neither I nor my employer wanted the work-at-home thing to exist in the first place, but I would have expected a pay increase (or increase in some other form of compensation) if this had continued.

So, I'm anti-work-at-home to the extent that I did not enjoy it and do not want to do it, but I do not particularly care about others who choose to do it and are able to do so productively. As long as your being away from the office does not affect my ability to communicate with you, I am fine with that choice for jobs where it is appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 18:40     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
I am not anti-WFH. I only went to the office 2-3 days a month pre-pandemic. I also think it depends on the job function. I have several people on my team who are individual performers who do not attend many meetings. There is little reason for them to come in. That said, there is something that is lost this long away from the office. We thought we would be ok because we already knew how to work remote - so my company didn’t do any of the goofy Zoom happy hours or other bonding activities early in the pandemic. Once the cracks started to show in morale and we realized the 1-2 days of face time each month mattered, it seemed too late to use more video or play silly games. I never considered leaving my company of 20+ years until recently and I realize it’s because I feel so disconnected.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 18:31     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m afraid to answer this question because the wfh crazies will attack me for being a loser, being selfish, ruining things for everyone, and on and on. Unfortunately the climate on this board won’t allow an open discussion on this topic.

It's not even this board, wfh crazies are everywhere!

I am probably not the person OP wants to hear from, because I'm not necessarily anti-wfh. I am fortunate to have a hybrid position here in DC, so I go in 2-3 days a week depending on my schedule and wfh the remaining days. I appreciate the flexibility - i.e. going through some personal issues right now, so I can have a telehealth therapy session at 8:00 and then wfh so I'm not late. That is nice and I appreciate it. While I like the flexibility, I also think there are benefits to being in the office and working in a collaborative environment.

However there is a contingency of pro-wfh people who think anyone who even slightly prefers in-office is a monster. Did you guys see that woman a few months ago who claimed return to office initiatives are the brain child of boomer men who hate their wives and just want to see their work crush again? Like wtf? I'm a millennial woman and I think she was absolutely batshit to even think that let alone verbalize it. Touch some grass. Your boss isn't a bad person for wanting you in the office a few days a week.


Thank you for your sanity! If only it were contagious…
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 18:15     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
Anonymous wrote:I’m afraid to answer this question because the wfh crazies will attack me for being a loser, being selfish, ruining things for everyone, and on and on. Unfortunately the climate on this board won’t allow an open discussion on this topic.

It's not even this board, wfh crazies are everywhere!

I am probably not the person OP wants to hear from, because I'm not necessarily anti-wfh. I am fortunate to have a hybrid position here in DC, so I go in 2-3 days a week depending on my schedule and wfh the remaining days. I appreciate the flexibility - i.e. going through some personal issues right now, so I can have a telehealth therapy session at 8:00 and then wfh so I'm not late. That is nice and I appreciate it. While I like the flexibility, I also think there are benefits to being in the office and working in a collaborative environment.

However there is a contingency of pro-wfh people who think anyone who even slightly prefers in-office is a monster. Did you guys see that woman a few months ago who claimed return to office initiatives are the brain child of boomer men who hate their wives and just want to see their work crush again? Like wtf? I'm a millennial woman and I think she was absolutely batshit to even think that let alone verbalize it. Touch some grass. Your boss isn't a bad person for wanting you in the office a few days a week.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 18:02     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
It's much harder to be an incompetent blow hard these days. Before WFH, the idiots could swarm you with questions, make you show them simple tasks, then they would go show something basic to the boss while they chat.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:56     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
Anonymous wrote:I don't care at all, but I think one should take a paycut. Generally, I think anyone who has a job that requires one to work in person, should be paid considerably more. From the grocery restocker to yard work people to teachers to construction crew to janitors to nurses.


100%. I love for people who can work from home to stay home! It means I can get to/from work without insane traffic. But, there should absolutely be a premium for people who don’t have the option. Though I do wish WFH people would stay off the roads from 4-6. If you don’t have to drive at rush hour, please don’t!
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:52     Subject: Re:For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
I don't care at all, but I think one should take a paycut. Generally, I think anyone who has a job that requires one to work in person, should be paid considerably more. From the grocery restocker to yard work people to teachers to construction crew to janitors to nurses


I would be fine with being paid somewhat less to fully WFH. My child has a disability and the 2 days/week I WFH are the only days I can get him to appointments in the early evening, since I don't have a 45-50 minute commute.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:50     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
Anonymous wrote:I don't care at all, but I think one should take a paycut. Generally, I think anyone who has a job that requires one to work in person, should be paid considerably more. From the grocery restocker to yard work people to teachers to construction crew to janitors to nurses.


x100000

My boss is totally remote, and does less and less every month.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:47     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
I don't care at all, but I think one should take a paycut. Generally, I think anyone who has a job that requires one to work in person, should be paid considerably more. From the grocery restocker to yard work people to teachers to construction crew to janitors to nurses.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:46     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
I have a friend who is a university professor and CHOSE to go back in person during the pandemic because she prefers teaching in person (professors at her school could choose to teach online or in person classes at a certain point). She is so angry at everyone who is still working from home. It’s inexplicable to me. It’s not jealousy for her bc she chose in person. It’s some strange kind of superiority thing, like if she’s strong enough to work in person, everyone else needs to buck up and do it too. It’s bizarre.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:42     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people care if others want to wfh. Are you jealous bc you want the choice to? Are you lonely at the office? I just…. Who cares what other people want to do? I don’t care if people want to go into an office - cool, let them. If people suck at their job presumably they will get let go so… what’s the problem? Let people do what works for them.


wfh is great for the people doing it. It is a nightmare for co-workers and for the entity itself.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:41     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
I’m afraid to answer this question because the wfh crazies will attack me for being a loser, being selfish, ruining things for everyone, and on and on. Unfortunately the climate on this board won’t allow an open discussion on this topic.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:24     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
Jealousy. Simple as that. “If I can’t have it, I don’t want you to have it either” mindset.
Anonymous
Post 08/05/2023 17:16     Subject: For those who are anti wfh, curious why you care?
I just don’t get why people care if others want to wfh. Are you jealous bc you want the choice to? Are you lonely at the office? I just…. Who cares what other people want to do? I don’t care if people want to go into an office - cool, let them. If people suck at their job presumably they will get let go so… what’s the problem? Let people do what works for them.