Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 12:47     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Anonymous wrote:Why don't they do it at PG Sports and learning? They are a PMSL team and there's tons of parking. I guess that loses the outdoor fun of summer swim?


yes, and it is expensive. Either one team would have to shoulder the expense or teams/swimmers would have to pay a significant portion to participate.

And yes, indoor meets have a much different feel/atmosphere from outdoor meets.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 09:56     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Anonymous wrote:Also, heard through the grapevine that WA doesn't want to host All Stars again next year.

OP, now is your chance to showcase your home pool with tons of shade, plentiful parking for an entire league, an abundance of volunteers, and a dedication to spend hours and hours planning before (and on) the big day!

We can't wait to see you at 2024 All Stars!


And after OP’s pool manages to pull off great weather, ideal shade, and plentiful parking, people are STILL going to complain. This time it’ll just be about that pool instead of WA.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 09:17     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Why don't they do it at PG Sports and learning? They are a PMSL team and there's tons of parking. I guess that loses the outdoor fun of summer swim?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 09:14     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Also, heard through the grapevine that WA doesn't want to host All Stars again next year.

OP, now is your chance to showcase your home pool with tons of shade, plentiful parking for an entire league, an abundance of volunteers, and a dedication to spend hours and hours planning before (and on) the big day!

We can't wait to see you at 2024 All Stars!
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 07:30     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Anonymous wrote:We are in PMSL and in the division with WA. From my understanding WA was the only team in the entire league who offered to host All Stars at the league meeting in April. It is a huge undertaking. We haven't hosted All Stars, but have hosted 2x Divisionals and it was a TON of work.

Parking was ok. DD didn't swim, but we went to support the team and got there at 8:30 just as the meet was starting. We parked on the street about .2 miles away with no issue.

We have been in PMSL for 10y and have been to many pools in the area. I can only think of one pool that has good natural shade for spectators (PG Pool.) Most pools don't have shade nearby to keep the debris out of the pool/deck area. We always use a tent.


I agree!

That was a HUGE task for WA. I happen to know how hard they worked to pull that off, and I’m filled with nothing but appreciation to the people who volunteered. (Keep in mind, OP, that they stepped up and volunteered to do this. Don’t like it? Then you can also volunteer.)

This swim family is appreciative, WA. Thank you for hosting.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 06:05     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
OP, get over yourself. This is summer swim. The pool facilities vary greatly- they are almost all outdoor community pools.. The organizations are run by volunteers.

Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 05:23     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Anonymous wrote:We are in PMSL and in the division with WA. From my understanding WA was the only team in the entire league who offered to host All Stars at the league meeting in April. It is a huge undertaking. We haven't hosted All Stars, but have hosted 2x Divisionals and it was a TON of work.

Parking was ok. DD didn't swim, but we went to support the team and got there at 8:30 just as the meet was starting. We parked on the street about .2 miles away with no issue.

We have been in PMSL for 10y and have been to many pools in the area. I can only think of one pool that has good natural shade for spectators (PG Pool.) Most pools don't have shade nearby to keep the debris out of the pool/deck area. We always use a tent.


All great points. I can’t imagine most pools would have parking lots that could accommodate such a big event. That would seem wasteful of land. This was my first season doing a swim team and could see how hosting such a big meet would require a tremendous amount of work. Very appreciative to the WA families and volunteers who made the all-star event happen.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2023 08:18     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
We are in PMSL and in the division with WA. From my understanding WA was the only team in the entire league who offered to host All Stars at the league meeting in April. It is a huge undertaking. We haven't hosted All Stars, but have hosted 2x Divisionals and it was a TON of work.

Parking was ok. DD didn't swim, but we went to support the team and got there at 8:30 just as the meet was starting. We parked on the street about .2 miles away with no issue.

We have been in PMSL for 10y and have been to many pools in the area. I can only think of one pool that has good natural shade for spectators (PG Pool.) Most pools don't have shade nearby to keep the debris out of the pool/deck area. We always use a tent.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 13:08     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Anonymous wrote:It was definitely difficult to view around slides and diving boards. Our side of viewing got to see 2/3rds of the races because of impediments. I haven’t been to other All-Stars but it was rough this weekend. I’m not sure all could be WA’s fault as it was oppressively hot.


There are many pools in PMSL that have much better facilities and better viewing. The league should plan for oppressively hot and pick a host pool with a lot of trees. It's July.

Anonymous
Post 07/31/2023 09:49     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
It was definitely difficult to view around slides and diving boards. Our side of viewing got to see 2/3rds of the races because of impediments. I haven’t been to other All-Stars but it was rough this weekend. I’m not sure all could be WA’s fault as it was oppressively hot.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2023 16:50     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
yea i heard it was kinda a swampy mess there today, and also about the bathrooms being gross. we are in B division and i can think of at least three of their pools that could host and are in better shape
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2023 15:11     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Anonymous wrote:They have a whole field for parking, what do you mean no parking? You can also park on the street and walk up.
Weren’t too told to take shade tents by your team?
It’s outdated for sure but it’s a nice pool as far as space goes.


Of course we took shade tents, but having natural shade cools the entire grounds down and WA has very little. The grounds were very overcrowded. And the bathrooms are tiny and disgusting. The line for the women’s room was about 20 people deep.

I don’t agree that it’s a nice pool. There is a tiny viewing area. Kids were slipping in the backstroke on both ends of the pool because of the walls.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2023 15:06     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
They have a whole field for parking, what do you mean no parking? You can also park on the street and walk up.
Weren’t too told to take shade tents by your team?
It’s outdated for sure but it’s a nice pool as far as space goes.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2023 13:30     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
Also, no meet mobile at a championship meet?
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2023 13:15     Subject: WA should NEVER host All Stars again (PMSL)
That meet was horrible. Limited parking. No shade. Weirdly pulling kids out of their events. The announcer was impossible to hear. I get that they run the league but come on …