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Anonymous wrote:Now that the season is over with all stars remaining, what kind of drama did you have this summer with your swim team?

We had parents very upset that times from the last B meet were not used for the Divisional lineups. The divisional lineup was already set before the last B Meet.

If that was the case then parents and swimmers should have been informed of this ahead of time. It seem odd that B meet times all count, but that one doesn't. Sure it cuts it close but there is still time.

If it’s mcsl it’s in the rule book. B meets are not official mcsl meets - often they are held against teams in other divisions that are close geographically. The teams choose these and how many.

Divisionals is for the swimmers who swam best during the official division meets.

“Meet entries – seeding times. Swimmers and relays must be entered in an event with the best time achieved during the current MCSL season. Times must be achieved in a current season MCSL dual (“A”) meet or the division relay (relay carnival) meet. Times achieved as a “swim-up” in an MCSL dual (“A”) meet can be used as long as the stroke and distance of the swim-up event is the same as the swimmer’s divisional event. If an eligible swimmer has not swum a particular event in an MCSL meet, that swimmer must be entered with a “no time”, Exhibition times, previous season times, and “B” meet times cannot be used as seeding times for divisionals.”

I actually think not using a last B meet result is a deadline issue. The pool that is handling automation typically sets the deadlines for entries as there is a lot that goes into producing the entry file for a 6-team meet and these are volunteers performing the tasks. In my pool's case, divisional entries exchange was the Sunday before divisionals. So it may have been out of your pool's hands to include entries from Wednesday as they would have been too late. So it is not "odd" but rather past the deadline for entries. The coach or reps could have easily relayed that info though.

And to clarify above, as PP points out, coaches can enter anyone they want (including choosing to use B meet times that are swum before the entry deadline) but they would be seeded as NT and therefore in the slowest heat/slowest lane (or seeded with an achieved A meet time that is slower). A coach may choose not to do that, as it is often hard to race (and therefore score points) out of the slow heat.

But the answer is that B meet was past the entry deadline as set by the divisionals meet automation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that the season is over with all stars remaining, what kind of drama did you have this summer with your swim team?

We had parents very upset that times from the last B meet were not used for the Divisional lineups. The divisional lineup was already set before the last B Meet.

If that was the case then parents and swimmers should have been informed of this ahead of time. It seem odd that B meet times all count, but that one doesn't. Sure it cuts it close but there is still time.

If it’s mcsl it’s in the rule book. B meets are not official mcsl meets - often they are held against teams in other divisions that are close geographically. The teams choose these and how many.

Divisionals is for the swimmers who swam best during the official division meets.

“Meet entries – seeding times. Swimmers and relays must be entered in an event with the best time achieved during the current MCSL season. Times must be achieved in a current season MCSL dual (“A”) meet or the division relay (relay carnival) meet. Times achieved as a “swim-up” in an MCSL dual (“A”) meet can be used as long as the stroke and distance of the swim-up event is the same as the swimmer’s divisional event. If an eligible swimmer has not swum a particular event in an MCSL meet, that swimmer must be entered with a “no time”, Exhibition times, previous season times, and “B” meet times cannot be used as seeding times for divisionals.”

Our Jr. Coaches get paid and don't want to work for their money. Sometimes they don't show up and when they do, they do nothing. I felt bad for the hour coach too.

Team not time

No drama at our pool.
We have a small time with a nice group of kids and coaches.

Our drama: Teen coaches liking the idea of being a coach but not wanting to help with practice or at the meets (namely with the 8 and unders). I felt bad for the head coach.

We have parents that want to tell the coach what to do and how to coach but don't want to volunteer to do anything else. They want to volunteer their opinions! We had a winning season and the kids had sooo much fun and parents are still complaining. Some parents suck!

We had people upset that they were not allowed to come to the banquet with Covid.

Our swim team is all drama, all the time. Which is why I refuse to do swim team. The parents all seem frustrated all the time and the infighting is crazy. The kids just want to have fun but the parents make it so stressful. No thanks.

Anonymous wrote:Now that the season is over with all stars remaining, what kind of drama did you have this summer with your swim team?

We had parents very upset that times from the last B meet were not used for the Divisional lineups. The divisional lineup was already set before the last B Meet.

If that was the case then parents and swimmers should have been informed of this ahead of time. It seem odd that B meet times all count, but that one doesn't. Sure it cuts it close but there is still time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That seems bizarre. Our last B meet was the Monday before our final A meet, so nearly two weeks before divisionals. Our coach asked my child the Monday before divisionals which strokes they wanted to swim (they have top time on the team in all strokes so got to choose ).

I think this B Meet may be after the last A Meet. Maybe it was on 7/19, 3 days before Divisionals? If that's the case, the lineup was already set.

That how the schedule worked at out pool. But MCSL doesn’t count B meet times as “official times” anyway.

Anonymous wrote:That seems bizarre. Our last B meet was the Monday before our final A meet, so nearly two weeks before divisionals. Our coach asked my child the Monday before divisionals which strokes they wanted to swim (they have top time on the team in all strokes so got to choose ).

I think this B Meet may be after the last A Meet. Maybe it was on 7/19, 3 days before Divisionals? If that's the case, the lineup was already set.

Kids crying when they lost. Kids crying when they won but had a bad time. Kids crying because someone said something mean. Kids being kids.

That seems bizarre. Our last B meet was the Monday before our final A meet, so nearly two weeks before divisionals. Our coach asked my child the Monday before divisionals which strokes they wanted to swim (they have top time on the team in all strokes so got to choose ).

Now that the season is over with all stars remaining, what kind of drama did you have this summer with your swim team?

We had parents very upset that times from the last B meet were not used for the Divisional lineups. The divisional lineup was already set before the last B Meet.