Anonymous wrote:I think women who do this hurt other women -- it gives bosses reasons to cut parental benefits. But so many have shifted into an "I only need to care about me" attitude that it's not a surprise when someone does it.

Oh yeah, encourage women to blame other women. They love that.

I think women who do this hurt other women -- it gives bosses reasons to cut parental benefits. But so many have shifted into an "I only need to care about me" attitude that it's not a surprise when someone does it.

I think of maternity leave like vacation time. You earn it by the work you did before you take it. It’s not something you are taking first and then owe the work you do after you come back.

Anonymous wrote:Fine. Plans change. The world keeps turning.

This, 100%.

Initially I get irritated because the way our hospital works is that we only have X number of positions available for full time employees. So when one is out on FMLA covered leave, we can't just hire someone to replace them. But because their shifts need to be covered, it can create some problems. So when they decide they don't want to return after leave, it means we now have to hire someone and train someone to fill their position. If they had said from the start they weren't coming back, we could have spent the 12 weeks training someone.

But then I remember I had PPD and wish I had prioritized myself and my mental health over what I thought was "right" way to do things. So I tend to let my irritation go. I don't know people's circumstances and why they choose not to come back. So it isn't fair for me to get upset.

We had two guys at work last year take max Paternity leave including the non-FMLA time and both started other new jobs while on it.

My company RSUs vest while out and they run through vacation days and paid Paternity leave days.

Gives them opportunity to double dip and try a second job. Both returned and resigned and gave two weeks notice. Since remote barely turned on lap top.

The women don’t quit my firm after maternity leave but one lady took six months then came back did near zero then got laid off one months pay and on to collect six months unemployment. Smart move.

We had another women whose husband keeps jumping on her. With firm three years due back maternity leave for second time next month. She started pregnant.

Such is life. But the men are even worse with paternity leave. We had a third paternity leave guy we let go after he came back for ghosting. Not only did he start new job on paternity leave he never resigned and milked it 2-3 months after returning by barely turning on his computer.

I say 90 percent on men scam paternity leave as we give a ton.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had three chicks do this in my career. One as a coworker, two who worked for me.

In all three cases, Slainte!

One of the latter two was actually really bad for because she crushed it. But whatever. Life is way bigger than a job, and I have zero objection to an employee leveraging the rules to their advantage. Like every Corp in the world or law firm partnership wouldn’t absolutely f$ck you if needed, within the parameters of the relationship. (We would.)

This.

I feel just fine about it.

I’ve had three chicks do this in my career. One as a coworker, two who worked for me.

In all three cases, Slainte!

One of the latter two was actually really bad for because she crushed it. But whatever. Life is way bigger than a job, and I have zero objection to an employee leveraging the rules to their advantage. Like every Corp in the world or law firm partnership wouldn’t absolutely f$ck you if needed, within the parameters of the relationship. (We would.)

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Anonymous wrote:All companies should have a clawback clause in their contracts if you don’t return for at least a year after maternity leave (barring extreme medical complications that make this absolutely impossible, as verified by a company approved physician).

To go with that clause, the job should be guaranteed for a year from the date of return. If employment ends for any reason the employee is owed at least their income for the remainder of the year.

Circumstances change, especially after a child. I'm fine with someone not returning as long as they give a certain amount of notice.

The problem with that as someone needs to do the work for that year so its not reasonable to hold it a year.

Anonymous wrote:All companies should have a clawback clause in their contracts if you don’t return for at least a year after maternity leave (barring extreme medical complications that make this absolutely impossible, as verified by a company approved physician).

To go with that clause, the job should be guaranteed for a year from the date of return. If employment ends for any reason the employee is owed at least their income for the remainder of the year.

Circumstances change, especially after a child. I'm fine with someone not returning as long as they give a certain amount of notice.

Fine. Plans change. The world keeps turning.

I did it. I wasn't planning on quitting but I was miserable at my job and at the last minute my child care fell through so it was easier to quit than deal with a nasty boss who wasn't supportive of me having a child.

Sometimes you don't know until after maternity leave, however in my situation I had months of leave saved as for years my supervisor denied me leave, so I was going to use up all those years of sick leave I couldn't get paid out and she wouldn't let me take.

All companies should have a clawback clause in their contracts if you don’t return for at least a year after maternity leave (barring extreme medical complications that make this absolutely impossible, as verified by a company approved physician).

Thoughts?