Anonymous wrote:He had great potential if he could have dialed it back a notch or two. His literal screaming made the guy seem unhinged. Compare with, say, Obama who has a cool, calm and collected. Howard Dean really blew it in my opinion.

It only seemed unhinged out of context. I used to volunteer for Wellstone events and jesus that guy would start his speeches out more or less even keeled and by the end he was yelling, the crowd was yelling for him and the general air was frenzied. He would have looked equally bat crap crazy had an isolated moment been taken from the end of one of his speeches. (RIP Paul and Sheila and Marcia and Will and the other four people)

And I absolutely think there was a purposeful element to it getting pushed around. I’ll still never vote for a Republican ever.

My DH and I always talk about Dean when he pops up. He would have been a great President!

Anonymous wrote:I never understand why the scream was so awful.

Yes, agree! God forbid anyone have any passion.

I remember watching him in the first debate.
The rest of the field was playing catchup and trying to outDean each other, while Dean seemed more moderate. Particularly on the Iraq War, he was against it, but he said something like,' We're they're now so we have to win.'

I see him as a talking head still from time to time.

I wondered this too.

And he was right-Dems have to fight everywhere. 50 state solution.

Anonymous wrote:He had great potential if he could have dialed it back a notch or two. His literal screaming made the guy seem unhinged. Compare with, say, Obama who has a cool, calm and collected. Howard Dean really blew it in my opinion.

Let's be honest about the fact that he was screaming so he could be heard over a deafening crowd.

By today's standards, looking at all of the Trump idiocy, mocking disabled people, calling to beat people up and carry them out on stretchers, attacking war heroes and blue star families, what Howard Dean did was extremely tame.

If he were a little younger I'd welcome him back on the campaign trail.

Anonymous wrote:The "scream" was a microphone trick. But, it got played up by "Democratic Leadership Council" types and their fellow cool kids in the Beltway media. Dean wasn't one of them, and they wanted John Kerry.

I'm willing to blame conservatives for a lot -- and they were happy to mock Dean along with the rest of the crowd; but I put this one on the DLC and complicit members of the media.

I think you're assigning more intentionality than was actually there. It just became a viral moment, pretty organically I think. You can make endless dollars if you can figure out why this thing happens to go viral and not that other thing.

The "scream" was a microphone trick. But, it got played up by "Democratic Leadership Council" types and their fellow cool kids in the Beltway media. Dean wasn't one of them, and they wanted John Kerry.

I'm willing to blame conservatives for a lot -- and they were happy to mock Dean along with the rest of the crowd; but I put this one on the DLC and complicit members of the media.

I never understand why the scream was so awful.

I was just talking about this the other day. The way it was aired - what he was hearing vs. the recorded piece in the media. It was unrealistic portrayal of the scene. I really liked him.

I wonder after he lead the DNC - what is he doing now?

He’s from New England

It’s really difficult for people from New England to connect with the rest of the country in a post 1965 era

Same with California - Newsom won’t be president for this reason

I include fl also on the other side. You can’t be from these types of states in the majority party and then try to go national because you aren’t instinctively used to being able to “code switch”

Kerry had this problem also

Desantis is showing this issue

Warren has this problem

He had great potential if he could have dialed it back a notch or two. His literal screaming made the guy seem unhinged. Compare with, say, Obama who has a cool, calm and collected. Howard Dean really blew it in my opinion.

A simple matter of the right knowing he was a very viable candidate and using the media to make him look silly and unviable.

Why didn't people like Howard Dean scream? I was 13 at the time I will play it on repeat on Limewire, he should've won.