Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:57
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. There are programs that can run hypothetical meets and optimize points that our coaches use
OP here, We would win, without moving swimmers up, but we do it anyway. I don't get the reasoning.
Is it letting more kids swim in the kid who moved up's age group?
yes, but it is taking away from the kids in the group they're swimming up from, hence my disapproval.
Our team is over 200
They would swim the kids in the age group if they could get points, correct? So if the swimmer is not going to get points and another swimmer works hard and could win points - the swimmer that gets points should win. I would not be fair if a team had nine swimmers in an age group and only four were competitive to be forced to swim the other five when their are younger swimmers that could grab points.
It is summer swim but it is not charity.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:57
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
we don't have swimmers fast enough (maybe 2-4) that would place decently in the next age group up, but we are quite thin at some certain age/gender groups so some of the younger ones that we are quite well stocked at, they might be tapped to swim up. They get lots of people cheering for them!
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:57
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Our NVSL team swims up swimmers in A meets only to fill empty lanes (when there is no one in that age group to swim the event). We would never leave off a swimmer (absent some sort of discipline issue) to swim someone up from a younger age group.
As a former team rep, I am actually surprised that some teams do that as part of strategy to win, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
As a former team rep, I am actually surprised that some teams do that as part of strategy to win, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:51
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. There are programs that can run hypothetical meets and optimize points that our coaches use
OP here, We would win, without moving swimmers up, but we do it anyway. I don't get the reasoning.
The swimmers being move up, are there a lot of kids in that age group? Oftentimes, teams do that to allow more swimmers the opportunity to swim.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:50
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. There are programs that can run hypothetical meets and optimize points that our coaches use
OP here, We would win, without moving swimmers up, but we do it anyway. I don't get the reasoning.
Is it letting more kids swim in the kid who moved up's age group?
yes, but it is taking away from the kids in the group they're swimming up from, hence my disapproval.
Our team is over 200
Ooooh yeah that would bother me too. I assumed that the kid swimming up was filling an empty spot.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:50
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Our team does it all the time. They go by times for A meets and try to be the most competitive with the tools (swimmers) we have. We have two incredible swimmers that swim up every meet. They get points for the team and it challenges them.
B meets are fun the individual swimmer and fun, A meets are for the good of the team.
B meets are fun the individual swimmer and fun, A meets are for the good of the team.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:48
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. There are programs that can run hypothetical meets and optimize points that our coaches use
OP here, We would win, without moving swimmers up, but we do it anyway. I don't get the reasoning.
Is it letting more kids swim in the kid who moved up's age group?
yes, but it is taking away from the kids in the group they're swimming up from, hence my disapproval.
Our team is over 200
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:37
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
We only do it if there is no one at all available with a time in the older age group.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:36
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
You should only do it when you have extra kids in the lower age group, so more kids get to swim in A meets.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:33
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Yes. We often do it when the lanes would otherwise not be filled in the older age groups
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:32
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. There are programs that can run hypothetical meets and optimize points that our coaches use
OP here, We would win, without moving swimmers up, but we do it anyway. I don't get the reasoning.
Is it letting more kids swim in the kid who moved up's age group?
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:31
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Our team did that when there weren't enough kids in the next age group.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:23
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:Yes. There are programs that can run hypothetical meets and optimize points that our coaches use
OP here, We would win, without moving swimmers up, but we do it anyway. I don't get the reasoning.
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:19
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Yes. There are programs that can run hypothetical meets and optimize points that our coaches use
Anonymous
07/06/2023 12:13
Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Does your team swim up kids in an older age group to win meets? Ours does regularly. We would win either way.
Just wondering.
Just wondering.