Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 19:32     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Mine also says "Q" for my 8th grader. Not sure what it means, but please share if you find out, OP!
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 19:28     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your 5th grader was placed in pre-algebra for 6th, what was their Math Inventory score at the end of 4th? Trying to get some sense how my rising 5th grader's score stacks up in the context of APS.


There are a million posts on this and barely anyone ever answers lol. Short answer is. They are getting rid of MI next year so those scores won't matter. But they don't just look at MI they look at SOLs and other scores abs classroom performance and class size and a million things apparently. And it will be different depending on which school you go to.

Anyway whenever we get our placement letter I will come back and tell you lol. Should be soon.

Yeah, I've never seen anyone post a number for an
EOY 4th grade score. Just trying to get a sense.

The classroom performance stuff is crazy subjective. My understanding is that some elementary schools liberally place kids in pre-algebra but others don't at all. I've also been told that zero kids from our elementary were recommended for pre-algebra next year because our gifted teacher doesn't believe in math acceleration. But I guess I'll worry about that next year.

That doesn't make sense because it's not all done at the school level. My school's math coach told me it is in part determined by the math office based on scores and teacher feedback. She is a colleague and I don't think she would lie to me.

Apparently the teacher who supplies the feedback for our school states that none of her students are recommended for pre-algebra in 6th. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand. Some kids do still get placed based on scores and parent requests, but none are recommended based on teacher input.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 19:18     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your 5th grader was placed in pre-algebra for 6th, what was their Math Inventory score at the end of 4th? Trying to get some sense how my rising 5th grader's score stacks up in the context of APS.


There are a million posts on this and barely anyone ever answers lol. Short answer is. They are getting rid of MI next year so those scores won't matter. But they don't just look at MI they look at SOLs and other scores abs classroom performance and class size and a million things apparently. And it will be different depending on which school you go to.

Anyway whenever we get our placement letter I will come back and tell you lol. Should be soon.

Yeah, I've never seen anyone post a number for an
EOY 4th grade score. Just trying to get a sense.

The classroom performance stuff is crazy subjective. My understanding is that some elementary schools liberally place kids in pre-algebra but others don't at all. I've also been told that zero kids from our elementary were recommended for pre-algebra next year because our gifted teacher doesn't believe in math acceleration. But I guess I'll worry about that next year.

That doesn't make sense because it's not all done at the school level. My school's math coach told me it is in part determined by the math office based on scores and teacher feedback. She is a colleague and I don't think she would lie to me.


Honestly after talking to a MS principal I am convinced it is just based on "how many kids can we fit in math 6 and where do we need to draw the line to make sure math 6 isn't overcrowded""
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 19:10     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your 5th grader was placed in pre-algebra for 6th, what was their Math Inventory score at the end of 4th? Trying to get some sense how my rising 5th grader's score stacks up in the context of APS.


There are a million posts on this and barely anyone ever answers lol. Short answer is. They are getting rid of MI next year so those scores won't matter. But they don't just look at MI they look at SOLs and other scores abs classroom performance and class size and a million things apparently. And it will be different depending on which school you go to.

Anyway whenever we get our placement letter I will come back and tell you lol. Should be soon.

Yeah, I've never seen anyone post a number for an
EOY 4th grade score. Just trying to get a sense.

The classroom performance stuff is crazy subjective. My understanding is that some elementary schools liberally place kids in pre-algebra but others don't at all. I've also been told that zero kids from our elementary were recommended for pre-algebra next year because our gifted teacher doesn't believe in math acceleration. But I guess I'll worry about that next year.

That doesn't make sense because it's not all done at the school level. My school's math coach told me it is in part determined by the math office based on scores and teacher feedback. She is a colleague and I don't think she would lie to me.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 18:49     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your 5th grader was placed in pre-algebra for 6th, what was their Math Inventory score at the end of 4th? Trying to get some sense how my rising 5th grader's score stacks up in the context of APS.


There are a million posts on this and barely anyone ever answers lol. Short answer is. They are getting rid of MI next year so those scores won't matter. But they don't just look at MI they look at SOLs and other scores abs classroom performance and class size and a million things apparently. And it will be different depending on which school you go to.

Anyway whenever we get our placement letter I will come back and tell you lol. Should be soon.

Yeah, I've never seen anyone post a number for an
EOY 4th grade score. Just trying to get a sense.

The classroom performance stuff is crazy subjective. My understanding is that some elementary schools liberally place kids in pre-algebra but others don't at all. I've also been told that zero kids from our elementary were recommended for pre-algebra next year because our gifted teacher doesn't believe in math acceleration. But I guess I'll worry about that next year.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 18:37     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:If your 5th grader was placed in pre-algebra for 6th, what was their Math Inventory score at the end of 4th? Trying to get some sense how my rising 5th grader's score stacks up in the context of APS.


There are a million posts on this and barely anyone ever answers lol. Short answer is. They are getting rid of MI next year so those scores won't matter. But they don't just look at MI they look at SOLs and other scores abs classroom performance and class size and a million things apparently. And it will be different depending on which school you go to.

Anyway whenever we get our placement letter I will come back and tell you lol. Should be soon.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 18:34     Subject: APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:What does DIBELS mean? We are 550 for our kinder out of a 420 benchmark — is that just squeaking by?

DIBELS doesn't really work that way. If your kid passes the benchmark, then they are okay. It doesn't screen for advanced kids, as each grade has a different test with different skills.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 18:32     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
If your 5th grader was placed in pre-algebra for 6th, what was their Math Inventory score at the end of 4th? Trying to get some sense how my rising 5th grader's score stacks up in the context of APS.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 18:25     Subject: APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
What does DIBELS mean? We are 550 for our kinder out of a 420 benchmark — is that just squeaking by?
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 17:39     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:Ugg...how important is the benchmark for Math? If just below does it really matter?


I think this just depends. I did hear this is thr last yr they are using MI, so maybe something is off with it as an assessment tool. I assume your kid wasn't recommended for summer school so maybe okay?

Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 17:17     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Anonymous wrote:Ugg...how important is the benchmark for Math? If just below does it really matter?


How were your child’s other scores (beginning and middle of year for MI)? Do you have other quizzes or assignments from math to assess how he is doing?

I wouldn’t sweat one assessment that is just below but I would take a look at how he was doing otherwise in math. Also consider having him use the math worksheets for his grade level that APS has online. Summer slide is real for kids especially for things like math facts.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 16:41     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Ugg...how important is the benchmark for Math? If just below does it really matter?
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 16:40     Subject: Re:APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
Is there some document that explains what the Math Inventory 3.1 scores mean?

All I got was my child's end of year score and End of Year Quantile Proficiency Range. It's hard to derive much meaning from those two numbers.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 16:27     Subject: APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
It means its probably not populating correctly for your student. Email the counselor. My students have numbers there.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2023 16:25     Subject: APS EOY assessments - can’t translate meaning
For rising 7th grader, the stated score for the mathematics 3.1 is simply Q. Did they not administer the test or does this mean something else?